The Offensive Line

[Wither]

....its like every week you find a new hole in some facet of the game...

How surprising... :eek:

[falconlynx]

you do when you run the ball well,and when you run alot,they get worn out

I do not remember much offensive line rotation last year. I remember Hangartner and Omiyale stepping up for injuries, but oline rotation-->I don't believe you.

[WCABBall]

I think some of it has to do with the fact that people are overplaying the run this year. The line is not playing to their potential but they are also playing teams that are hell bent to stop the running game of the Panthers and we all know what happens when we try to throw to much.

I still believe this o-line is a good one they just need to be more consistent and play to their potential (as they did vs. Atlanta this year). Run blocking is their strong point and we need to adjust to the stacking of the box. Pass blocking has never been great and they are not built that way especially trying to protect a statue at QB

[pstall]

Teams are putting 8/9 in the box to make Jake beat them. They lol when Moose goes deep and double SS. There is your bad pass protection.

Throw in about 4 reverses and hit your TE or another WR in the seam and that 8 man front goes away.

[Gman was right]

Thats because they havent been facing any cup cake defensive lines like they did last year. Our oline is so overrated its not even funny!

[fignewty314]

I do not remember much offensive line rotation last year. I remember Hangartner and Omiyale stepping up for injuries, but oline rotation-->I don't believe you.

watch a game from last year from mid point on.Any timeout,commercial or team,injury or whatever,we rotated someone in to relieve someone tired and never missed a beat.Now do we do it as often as defense,no,we try to keep the other team on their heels.did you play football?

[pantherj]

Part of the problem is that Kahlil gets blown up agaisnt big DTs.

[fignewty314]

Part of the problem is that Kahlil gets blown up agaisnt big DTs.

I agree,what gets me,he's short as hell.Maybe he's strong,but I would rather have a beast at center with speed,than a short guy with speed

[Snake]

Teams are putting 8/9 in the box to make Jake beat them. They lol when Moose goes deep and double SS. There is your bad pass protection.

Throw in about 4 reverses and hit your TE or another WR in the seam and that 8 man front goes away.

Thats one part of it. I would also like to add a few key factors to our problems.

1. As you said 8 and 9 in the box and selling on the run.

2. Jake has a problem with not stepping up in the pocket. Thats a killer.

3. Our WRs are not getting open.

4. Vincent is not the same player. Another Groin surgery has hurt him and he prob will never be right.

[Snake]

Part of the problem is that Kahlil gets blown up agaisnt big DTs.

He did well if you ask me ageist one of the best last game. You cant help they were putting 8\9 in the box and selling on the run.

[Wither]

4. Vincent is not the same player. Another Groin surgery has hurt him and he prob will never be right.

lol. That's just one horrible injury to change your career.

[Snake]

lol. That's just one horrible injury to change your career.

Yea and he has injured it twice. Not very fun at all.

[Wither]

Yea and he has injured it twice. Not very fun at all.

lol.

Seriously though, I wonder how it's directly affected his play?

[Snake]

lol.

Seriously though, I wonder how it's directly affected his play?

Really its dif then what it sounds like. Same with Turf toe. A Groin tear happens because you are not very flexible. Its a muscle that runs in your inner thigh. With two surgeries im sure there is scar tissue and his movement is not 100%. Groin tears take most people two years to get over.