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Dave Gettleman Hired By The NY Giants As Their New GM

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6 minutes ago, johnnydefence said:

All right veterans are going to start retiring, players contracts are going to start being renegotiated and the front office is going to start to turn over

Who from the front office here did Gettleman replace?

Heck,most of the people that are in place there now are people that he was working with before. If he didn't fire anybody here, why would he fire them?

And let's be real, the Giants have a way more proven, organized and tenured personnel system than we do. Up till this year, our Pro Personnel chief was a guy who worked his way up from the ticket office.

(the kind of promotions only Jerry Richardson would do)

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12 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Can't make a full judgement on CMC after only one rookie season. But even the biggest homer can't just be satisfied with their franchise QB shouldering the run game after drafting an offensive weapon 8th overall. Do I actually have to explain this?

As far as this season. Which is what I have been referring to. Signing Matt Kalil to that contract when other options were available is just ugly. On top of that cutting Ginn would have been a lesser loss if he hadn't tried to replace him with a couple of jags that would be lucky to make a CFL roster. We are limited on offense this season and Gettleman unequivocally shares blame for that.

"Do I have to explain this?"  - No, you don't have to explain anything.  But apparently you have to be a dick.

You keep harping on the run game and whining that Cam is leading the team.  He's running about 8-9 times a game, which is what he did in 2015 and prior.  But his yards per carry is way up thanks to a couple very long runs.  He's only 15 yards ahead of stewie, so who knows if he'll remain ahead but who the hell cares.  Who thought CMC was going to come in at 200 lbs and run the ball 25 times a game.  That would be a waste and the guy probably would not have made it to midseason.  CMC is good in space and spreads the field, making it easier for Cam to run.  Win win.

And Ginn was replaced with our second round pick - Samuel.  He got hurt.  That does not mean Gettleman did not try to replace Ginn.  It means Samuel got hurt.  Gman also signed Byrd and cultivated him on the practice squad in case Samuel got hurt.  Unfortunately he got hurt too.

Finally the Matt Kalil thing.  I've said before this did not feel very Gettlemanly but more Richardsonly.  No clue who pushed the signing, but the contract is not terrible.  We are not paying him much his first two years (salary cap wise).  If he works out, he's a bargain.  If he doesn't work out, we have to eat some salary but its actually pretty manageable.

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2 hours ago, DelhommesTheMan said:

Gettleman is not even on the market for an entire season and gets hired.  Hurney was on the market for years and not even a sniff of interest.  Ask yourselves why..I’ll say it again, Jerry fired the best thing that happened to this franchise in its entire existence.  Can’t wait till this team is sold to an owner that cares about winning.

Jerry fired Cam? 

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2 minutes ago, KendrickPanther said:

Ill be watching the Giants with interest. Gettleman is an old dude. He won't have a franchise QB and top shelf linebacker. His best player is Odell Beckham who needs a new contract. If he can get them competitive in 2 years, it will be a miracle.

Technically he'll have an over the hill franchise QB.

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29 minutes ago, PantherCam213 said:

Oh, we've totally recovered all right.  Our WRs and DBs are the highlights of our position groups.

So you think Smith should STILL be on the team?  and Norman?

If Norman is still around, maybe we don't get Bradberry.  Here's a quick comparison of the 2 as of right now:

Norman.  30 yrs old.  2017 numbers = 58 tackles, 0 sacks, 0 interceptions, and a cap hit of 20.0 million.

Bradberry.  24 yrs old. 2017 numbers = 80 tackles, 1 sack, 2 interceptions, and a cap hit of 0.9 million.

I'll take the second guy.

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3 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

So you think Smith should STILL be on the team?  and Norman?

If Norman is still around, maybe we don't get Bradberry.  Here's a quick comparison of the 2 as of right now:

Norman.  30 yrs old.  2017 numbers = 58 tackles, 0 sacks, 0 interceptions, and a cap hit of 20.0 million.

Bradberry.  24 yrs old. 2017 numbers = 80 tackles, 1 sack, 2 interceptions, and a cap hit of 0.9 million.

I'll take the second guy.

It’s hard to compare corners based on those stats.  What about catch %?  PBU’s?

Tackles usually indicate the corner allowed the receiver to make a catch. Less tackles is not always a bad thing. 

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5 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

So you think Smith should STILL be on the team?  and Norman?

If Norman is still around, maybe we don't get Bradberry.  Here's a quick comparison of the 2 as of right now:

Norman.  30 yrs old.  2017 numbers = 58 tackles, 0 sacks, 0 interceptions, and a cap hit of 20.0 million.

Bradberry.  24 yrs old. 2017 numbers = 80 tackles, 1 sack, 2 interceptions, and a cap hit of 0.9 million.

I'll take the second guy.

nobody said Smith would still be on the team but if he hadn't have got rid of him there is a good chance old Dave would still be on the team...

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7 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

So you think Smith should STILL be on the team?  and Norman?

If Norman is still around, maybe we don't get Bradberry.  Here's a quick comparison of the 2 as of right now:

Norman.  30 yrs old.  2017 numbers = 58 tackles, 0 sacks, 0 interceptions, and a cap hit of 20.0 million.

Bradberry.  24 yrs old. 2017 numbers = 80 tackles, 1 sack, 2 interceptions, and a cap hit of 0.9 million.

I'll take the second guy.

we would still get Bradberry...i'll take both...the cap hit is wrong...

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9 minutes ago, grimesgoat said:

So you think Smith should STILL be on the team?  and Norman?

If Norman is still around, maybe we don't get Bradberry.  Here's a quick comparison of the 2 as of right now:

Norman.  30 yrs old.  2017 numbers = 58 tackles, 0 sacks, 0 interceptions, and a cap hit of 20.0 million.

Bradberry.  24 yrs old. 2017 numbers = 80 tackles, 1 sack, 2 interceptions, and a cap hit of 0.9 million.

I'll take the second guy.

The 24 year old guy who can't turn around defending a pass ?

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