A little historical quirk (Re: Shula)

[thefuzz]

16 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    What about the fact that Minny has more talent on Offense than we do? 

 

    Who should do more? The team with talent around a pretty good QB? Or the team that has a really good QB, but much less talent?

 

    It appears that the teams match up rather well Offensively. So if Shumar is a good OC? (As @Mr. Scot has purposed.) Does it not stand to reason, that Shula just may be as well?

 

    

I don't think that Minny has more talent on offense.  Now with our injuries this year that can be debated...but both squads healthy...I'll take our O over theirs all day.

I would prefer a better OC on our part though.

[iamhubby1]

4 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

I don't think that Minny has more talent on offense.  Now with our injuries this year that can be debated...but both squads healthy...I'll take our O over theirs all day.

I would prefer a better OC on our part though.

 

    According to the Huddlez. Outside of Funch, we have no WRs. And for our RBs, Stewy is done, and CmC is a Slot guy. So not many would seem to agree that we have comparable talent.

 

    IMO, WR issues bit our Offense once again. Give this Offense a reliable WR corp., and then see what we have. I don't like making changes until you put your best foot forward. Otherwise, again, IMO, you are making those changes in reaction mode. And I hate seeing folks do that.

 

    Bring in a quality Vet WR to team with Funch. Throw in Samuel, and Byrd. Then maybe you could fairly evaluate the situation. I just don't believe it is fair to evaluate a problem, when the problem has a problem.

 

    tl/dr version; IMO, Cam, and Shula have had an average Offense. With below average talent. Give them some actual talent. Then reevaluate. If they still struggle, well dang. But if they actually succeed? Yaaahooo.

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, thefuzz said:

To be honest though, one of these offenses has Cam Newton at the helm...the other has Case Keenum...you should be able to do more with this offense than the Vikes can do with theirs.

If Cam is on like he was on Sunday I  agree, but when Cam is off he is awful and no amount of coaching can fix it sometimes it appears.  

[mc52beast]

16 hours ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

Look, I understand criticizing Shula last year but how the hell are you making him the scape goat right now?  He drew up a damn good game plan imo.  He was able to put up 400+ yards in the Dome with Cam, CMC, Stewart and an island of misfit toys. We should have scored more than 26 points, Cam missed a wide open CMC for 6 early and Funchess couldn't locate what could have been the winning TD.  Gano also left off 3 more. I think Shula was actually pretty solid all year considering the injuries he was dealt with.

If there's a coordinator that we should be criticizing right now, it's Wilks.  Stop bringing up Shula.  He was prepared to win today, Wilks wasn't. 

Can’t figure out why he doesn’t get any interviews... maybe you could explain

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, trueblade said:

After watching the Jags, Bills, and Panthers yesterday, it was nice for New Orleans to remind people what a functional offense looks like.

Who was number 1 this past weekend in offensive yards and first downs? And it wasn't the Saints.

[panthers55]

4 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

Can’t figure out why he doesn’t get any interviews... maybe you could explain

Maybe people feel like he isn't head coach material. Skill sets for the 2 aren't close. I wouldn't want him as head coach but as an OC he is decent.

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Some of y’all don’t make sense...

im for certain the reason we don’t run a 2min offense other than when needed is because of ron, not shula, also bitching about having funchess on the sideline, and in the same breath bitching about him being in the game on a play where it seens his effort was lackluster is hypocritical.

defense and the teams overall conservativness is a bigger issue than our oc. 

We use the 2 minute offense to change tempo, get Newton in rhythm or to keep New Orleans from substituting. None of these things were an issue. We moved the ball, ran up and down the field and struggled in the redzone. Something the hurry up wouldn't have changed. Why do hurry up when you want to keep Brees off the field?  As for Funchess he did a great job trying to make plays when he was clearly hurt. I thought he was the least of our problems.

[panthers55]

50 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    According to the Huddlez. Outside of Funch, we have no WRs. And for our RBs, Stewy is done, and CmC is a Slot guy. So not many would seem to agree that we have comparable talent.

 

    IMO, WR issues bit our Offense once again. Give this Offense a reliable WR corp., and then see what we have. I don't like making changes until you put your best foot forward. Otherwise, again, IMO, you are making those changes in reaction mode. And I hate seeing folks do that.

 

    Bring in a quality Vet WR to team with Funch. Throw in Samuel, and Byrd. Then maybe you could fairly evaluate the situation. I just don't believe it is fair to evaluate a problem, when the problem has a problem.

 

    tl/dr version; IMO, Cam, and Shula have had an average Offense. With below average talent. Give them some actual talent. Then reevaluate. If they still struggle, well dang. But if they actually succeed? Yaaahooo.

I agree. Look how much better we looked with Olsen back and finally at 100% imagine if we had Samuel and Byrd. This offense had less talent this year with all the injuries than we had last year and Cam wasn't even healthy for the first part of this year.

[iamhubby1]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

I agree. Look how much better we looked with Olsen back and finally at 100% imagine if we had Samuel and Byrd. This offense had less talent this year with all the injuries than we had last year and Cam wasn't even healthy for the first part of this year.

 

    Looking at this team, there is a lot to like. Pair getting Samuel, and Byrd healthy, with a solid draft. And this team should be just as good, or better next year. Now add the right Vet FAs, and we can be really good.

 

    

[Cpt slay a ho]

35 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

We use the 2 minute offense to change tempo, get Newton in rhythm or to keep New Orleans from substituting. None of these things were an issue. We moved the ball, ran up and down the field and struggled in the redzone. Something the hurry up wouldn't have changed. Why do hurry up when you want to keep Brees off the field?  As for Funchess he did a great job trying to make plays when he was clearly hurt. I thought he was the least of our problems.

Yeah I agree mostly but guys are complaining because we had cmc and olsen block on a play, funchess and olsen on the sideline, these are two plays put of what ? 40-50 the nitpicking is annoying. I’m more concerned with a defense that can only pick on subpar qb’s