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2 minutes ago, Panthers8969 said:

Lol aka he fuging sucks and I’m the poo

 

take a TE with the comp pick in the third and let Greg mentor him 

Yeah get another Manhertz in the third, yeah that sounds great. Greg could get hurt at anytime, not buying any of those guys can take over. Hurst is NFL ready enough said, really don't care what Greg says. He is going to say that but he is 33 years old and went to check on an announcer gig. That to me showed the organization they needed to get ready to get someone that is ready to play now or next year. 

 

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3 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

Yeah get another Manhertz in the third, yeah that sounds great. Greg could get hurt at anytime, not buying any of those guys can take over. Hurst is NFL ready enough said, really don't care what Greg says. He is going to say that but he is 33 years old and went to check on an announcer gig. That to me showed the organization they needed to get ready to get someone that is ready to play now or next year. 

 

Manhertz was a UFA lol. Late third is a great spot for a TE especially when it’s jot an immediate need. 

 

But yeah, stopped reading after you said a 3rd round pick was equivalent to a UFA

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4 minutes ago, Panthers8969 said:

Manhertz was a UFA lol. Late third is a great spot for a TE especially when it’s jot an immediate need. 

 

But yeah, stopped reading after you said a 3rd round pick was equivalent to a UFA

If you read it right then you know I never said it was equivalent just saying once you get third on in draft your not finding a starting te if Greg goes down or leaves. But I understand why you quit reading it was because you know I'm right and can't admit it. Come back when you can hang with the men in this forum. 

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On 4/13/2018 at 10:16 AM, CPF4LIFE said:

I like Hayden Hurst, when you watch him you can just tell his game translates to the NFL. He got some Gronk in him. 

I see a lot of Travis Kelce in him and I think people are just plain hatin on him.

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35 minutes ago, steven8989 said:

If you read it right then you know I never said it was equivalent just saying once you get third on in draft your not finding a starting te if Greg goes down or leaves. But I understand why you quit reading it was because you know I'm right and can't admit it. Come back when you can hang with the men in this forum. 

Yeah get another Manhertz in the third, yeah that sounds great.” 

So how was I supposed to read this lol? 

Oh and now you’re a man and I’m not? Got it

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I have a question . If we draft a WR in the 1st or 2nd round we will be crowded at this position and someone is likely to be cut.  Bersin has been solid and has done everything he is asked. He has to size and is a willing blocker with sure hands. His only drawback is his speed.  Why not try him a TE ! We have nothing to lose . it is a position of need so why not give him a shot.

 

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