Did we win yesterday or what??

[jpniner]

instead of a moral victory, it was a moral loss

[panthers55]

i really don't think they are doing everything they can do to win. they are doing everything they want to and hoping that it will eventually work. i honestly don't believe that the playcalling and/or jake is going to put this team over the top........

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Seriously you don't think that Fox and Davidson and their group are spending hours everyday pouring over film trying to see how defenses are playing them and trying to improve? You don't think that they are doing what they can or know how to do to fix things.

Don't you think they know if they don't win this year they are gone? if you thought that wouldn't you be doing everything you can?

You aren't the only one frustrated about their play. How many of us cussed up a storm when Jake threw the pick six. I know I did.

But after coaching albeit at a much lower level, I know that coaches in particular stress over the things that go worng and work very hard to fix them more so than the things that went right. And I promise you that Davidson is doing what he can to be less predictable.

[CatMan72]

Seriously you don't think that Fox and Davidson and their group are spending hours everyday pouring over film trying to see how defenses are playing them and trying to improve? You don't think that they are doing what they can or know how to do to fix things.

Don't you think they know if they don't win this year they are gone? if you thought that wouldn't you be doing everything you can?

You aren't the only one frustrated about their play. How many of us cussed up a storm when Jake threw the pick six. I know I did.

But after coaching albeit at a much lower level, I know that coaches in particular stress over the things that go worng and work very hard to fix them more so than the things that went right. And I promise you that Davidson is doing what he can to be less predictable.

I don't doubt the coaching staff is working hard, at the end of the day players have to execute. I don't know how you can assess Davidson's playcalling when Delhomme is turning the ball over so much.

Such is the life of a coach, when players are executing you're a genius and when they're not you're an idiot.

[Tank]

I guess you could call it a win. I saw two teams who couldn't get out of each others way and when the game clock hit 00:00 the Panthers just happened to somehow have more points than the hapless Bucs.

[weyco2000]

I'm happy with the victory! But... no way this team makes the playoffs with Jake at QB. One of the worst personnel decisions in our short history, was to extend him with a year left on his contract.

[panthers55]

I'm happy with the victory! But... no way this team makes the playoffs with Jake at QB. One of the worst personnel decisions in our short history, was to extend him with a year left on his contract.

We have already beat that into the ground. The extention was for cap purposes and most of the money he was given was already due him already. A lot more is backloaded and if he plays like he has so far this year, he will never see.

We have made far worse decisions than that unfortunately.

[rayzor]

Seriously you don't think that Fox and Davidson and their group are spending hours everyday pouring over film trying to see how defenses are playing them and trying to improve? You don't think that they are doing what they can or know how to do to fix things.

Don't you think they know if they don't win this year they are gone? if you thought that wouldn't you be doing everything you can?

You aren't the only one frustrated about their play. How many of us cussed up a storm when Jake threw the pick six. I know I did.

But after coaching albeit at a much lower level, I know that coaches in particular stress over the things that go worng and work very hard to fix them more so than the things that went right. And I promise you that Davidson is doing what he can to be less predictable.

the problem is i think they believe they are doing their best and i don't doubt that they are spending hours and hours trying to figure out what is wrong and trying to fix it. i just don't have a lot of faith in their ability to do it.

if they lose their jobs this year it is because they deserve to lose it. i think they know full well that they are on the hotseat. i just don't think they are willing to do what it takes to go the distance. that is what i hope i am proved wrong on.

if jake truly is the problem and is done...is fox willing to bench him for the reminder of the year? if davidson is the problem is he willing to find someone to replace him if things don't improve? i don't have faith in him anymore to make the tough calls and major adjustments. i think he's too afraid of messing up more and that is going to be holding him back.

[Jangler]

I avoided gameday like I usually do to avoid the hysterics and constant complainers. Still If I look at the threads today I can't find anything that suggests we won. There is even one that is titled Our Biggest Obstacles to Winning Yesterday. Seriously????

I know the team isn't great and a win doesn't change everything but we are a game away from .500 with a good chance to win at home against Buffalo. After our preseason if someone said we would be 3-3 after our start I would be more than happy.

Then why is everyone so nasty and critical? It almost feels like everyone had so many negative things to say over the past 3 games, they can't acknowledge anything positive or even be happy we won.

This really is a most depressing forum despite a 2 game winning streak which could easily become 3 or even 4. Can't we lighten up at least until we lose again????

You can't live in the now and enjoy what you have if you are always worrying and predicting the worst down the road. It bad things are going to happen it will be soon enough. Until then we ought to be able to enjoy the win at least for a day or two.

I am usually with you on most things you say, and this goes to n00bs most of the time, but...

[monstercat]

This is the NFL, where there are no easy wins. Just ask the Eagles (who started 2-4 last year, BTW). I don't care where the Bucs were ranked against the run or what their win/loss record was and I don't care what obstacles the Panthers had to overcome to get that win. I just care that they did overcome those obstacles and beat a division rival in their house.

[stankowalski]

Is this college football or the NFL? Oakland is one of the worst teams/franshises in the NFL. Philly is one of the best teams/franshises in the NFL. Who won yesturday?

Every team in the NFL is made of the best pro athelets in the world. To get a win, now two wins, is something to be proud of no matter who the opponent was or how the win came about. It wasn't too long ago that these Panthers were 1-15 so for me I'll take 2 wins against "the worst teams in the league" any year.

That Philly/Oakland game wasn't a trend. It could be, but I doubt it. I do agree that any given Sunday any team can win. However, we have shown a trend of having too many turnovers and a lack of cohesiveness on defense and special teams. I'm glad that we won, but I still think if we play like we have the past 6 games (including the last one last year)...the Saints will smoke us twice, Atlanta will beat us again, and we will not be making the playoffs. The only bright spot I've seen so far is that the running game woke up. If we can keep the running game going, the turnovers down, improve on special teams and become more consistent on defense then I'll change my mind...until then, you've got your opinion, I've got mine.

[Gman was right]

So who's going to the victory parade tommorrow? You know the one where we celebrate barely beating two of the worst teams in the league after getting manhandled 3 weeks in a row by the good ones? I know Ill be there! I just couldnt sleep last night because I was so excited about barely beating two cup cake teams. Who cares if we only have two more of those on the schedule and all the rest of the games on the schedule are against winning teams who will manhandle us some more? We should just enjoy these 2 victories while we can since we probably wont have too many more. Who cares that Jake throws more TD passes to the other team than he does his own receivers? Who cares that our STs is the joke of the league? We beat an 0-6 team baby! Woo hoo!

[beastson]

Uh I only enjoyed the victory cause it was a rival

Other than that, we nor the Panthers especially should be happy about barely beating the Bucs and Redskins. You think the Pats or Steelers would be happy about barely beating 2 of the worst teams in the NFL. I think some people on here and the coaching staff is overlooking the talent on this team. Some people I think either works for the coaching staff is on here, or fishing for a job. Cause yall match perfectly

[mofo112]

I'll break it down like this. Most fans beleived we would be ELITE and dominate teams, so when we see the saints come out and win pretty we get jelous and envious even if we win (ugly). We expected greatness. I did enjoy the win though after my friggin Heart Attack.

[panthers55]

So who's going to the victory parade tommorrow? You know the one where we celebrate barely beating two of the worst teams in the league after getting manhandled 3 weeks in a row by the good ones? I know Ill be there! I just couldnt sleep last night because I was so excited about barely beating two cup cake teams. Who cares if we only have two more of those on the schedule and all the rest of the games on the schedule are against winning teams who will manhandle us some more? We should just enjoy these 2 victories while we can since we probably wont have too many more. Who cares that Jake throws more TD passes to the other team than he does his own receivers? Who cares that our STs is the joke of the league? We beat an 0-6 team baby! Woo hoo!

There is a victory parade?? Are they selling beer and giving anything away? Will the top cats be there shaking boobies?

If yes to any of the above, I am so there!!!!!!!!