A glimpse into why.Obada made the team over Hall

[KB_fan]

In Ron's post-practice presser yesterday, there was a brief discussion of why Obada made the roster.

https://www.panthers.com/video/rivera-had-to-make-tough-decisions

(thé section in question starts at around 2 minutes)

I thought it was quite an interesting little glimpse of Ron's evaluation process. He mentioned going back and looking at tape from last year's camp. Could you see clear evolution and progress in the player?

Sounds like for Obada and Cox the answer was a resounding yes. For Hall, implied, the answer was no, to such an extent that we didn't even bring him back to the PS.

It's exciting to think we've got a player as hungry and coachable on the 53 as Obada. Let's hope he continues to improve and gets a chance to flash. It could be a struggle for him to be active on game days due to numbers...

[KB_fan]

On a different note, it was interesting to hear the decision on Heinicke vs Gilbert came down to the fact that Heinicke can run more of the playbook. There isn't as much you have to scrap.

[GamecockSmitty4]

Good catch. Also, I'm sure it's been discussed here but I just (ironically) discovered the series Undiscovered on Youtube that follows a few of the international guys trying to make it to the NFL and am watching 2017's series. You can really tell how hungry and motivated Efe is. It's truly remarkable how far he has come in such a short amount of time relative to all of his peers who have been playing football their entire lives. I liked him before as an underdog but seeing him even closer and his desire to get better and use football as a tool to better his life just makes it impossible not to root for this guy. 

[KB_fan]

2 minutes ago, GamecockSmitty4 said:

Good catch. Also, I'm sure it's been discussed here but I just (ironically) discovered the series Undiscovered on Youtube that follows a few of the international guys trying to make it to the NFL and am watching 2017's series. You can really tell how hungry and motivated Efe is.

I believe Efe is usually among the first out on the practice field each day.

[DaveThePanther2008]

What a steal he will be if he comes in and records 4 or 5 sacks during the season.  He has JP, who is a freak of nature, to continue teach him everything he knows about the position.

Not comparing Efe to JP but what drew NFL Scouts to him was his size, speed and quickness and the guy had only been in football a year or two.

It is amazing that this guy has gone from putting a uniform on for the first time at age 22 to making an NFL roster at 26.   Just think of how many busts there were that have been playing their whole lives.  Pretty remarkable.

[KB_fan]

[One other really interesting nugget in this video comes at around 6:15. - Ron talks about putting Seymour on IR and admits there was gamesmanship involved in downplaying his injury so our big need at corner wasn't obvious. 

Thus suggests we hoped to land another corner in recent days but that it hasn't worked out, yet.]

[DaveThePanther2008]

2 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

[One other really interesting nugget in this video comes at around 6:15. - Ron talks about putting Seymour on IR and admits there was gamesmanship involved in downplaying his injury so our big need at corner wasn't obvious. 

Thus suggests we hoped to land another corner in recent days but that it hasn't worked out, yet.]

It just occurred to me that players signed after week one are better for us CAP wise than if we sign before the season.

Or something like that.

[PntherPryd]

1 hour ago, KB_fan said:

[One other really interesting nugget in this video comes at around 6:15. - Ron talks about putting Seymour on IR and admits there was gamesmanship involved in downplaying his injury so our big need at corner wasn't obvious. 

Thus suggests we hoped to land another corner in recent days but that it hasn't worked out, yet.]

Which begs the follow up question, "why go to all that trouble only to unveil your motives before a replacement is secured"?

[TheRumGone]

I’m still kind of at a loss about Hall. I get wanting to see progression from one training camp to the next but Hall was IRed his first year. Gotta be more to it then that. Maybe he wasn’t putting in the time like Cox and Obada. To just cut a 3rd round pick after essentially one training camp is not common at all.

[KB_fan]

46 minutes ago, PntherPryd said:

Which begs the follow up question, "why go to all that trouble only to unveil your motives before a replacement is secured"?

Yeah, I did wonder that too. Ron's not necessarily very GOOD at gamesmanship even though he's trying, LOL. But I guess the move to put Seymour on IR made our need at corner obvious....

 

[DaveThePanther2008]

24 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

I’m still kind of at a loss about Hall. I get wanting to see progression from one training camp to the next but Hall was IRed his first year. Gotta be more to it then that. Maybe he wasn’t putting in the time like Cox and Obada. To just cut a 3rd round pick after essentially one training camp is not common at all.

I don't know personally and Rivera wasn't going to trash a guy he just cut but I don't think he was putting in the time to be better.  

Just another DG blunder.  He took a gamble that Hall was part of a Tandem and it appears he just benefited from the 1st pick tailcoat.

It's sad to see him go but if who we have on the PS has a higher upside it is better to release him and move on.   I think the lack of anyone picking him up just shows that they didn't see much on tape either.

[KB_fan]

3 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

think the lack of anyone picking him up just shows that they didn't see much on tape either.

Yeah, the fact that he didn't get claimed by the Cardinals, Bills or Giants is pretty telling.

Wilks DID grab one of our DE cuts, but he went with Zach Moore over Hall.

[DaveThePanther2008]

20 minutes ago, KB_fan said:

Yeah, the fact that he didn't get claimed by the Cardinals, Bills or Giants is pretty telling.

Wilks DID grab one of our DE cuts, but he went with Zach Moore over Hall.

That says it all.  Wilks had extensive work with him the last couple of years so he should know.

[Paa Langfart]

4 hours ago, KB_fan said:

On a different note, it was interesting to hear the decision on Heinicke vs Gilbert came down to the fact that Heinicke can run more of the playbook. There isn't as much you have to scrap.

Did he say why he put Allen on the ps rather than Gilbert?