Monday notes

[TheCasillas]

1 hour ago, gmonjimbo said:

Also to your point, Moore isn't looking for the ball 

When cam brings his arm back to throw - Moore is looking.

[*FreeFua*]

3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Well you are triggered now. Great. This is my last comment then.

Cam made a bad throw. I am sticking to that. Cam knows that throw was on him. Rivera admitted that Cam made a bad throw there. Kudos to giants defense. I can’t  change the past but it would have been nice to see him hit Moore in stride across the middle while we watch Moore blow past the trailing linebacker.

Ian has 3 giants players all within 3-5 yards of him. Bad throw. 

I wouldn’t expect anything less from someone with your football IQ to think any differently.

 

[stankowalski]

3 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

The second INT was Cam's fault. He threw to Ian while he was being trailed and the corner was sitting in the flat. That ball should of gone to Moore for 15-25 yards on the crossing route with no one on him.

I'll have to go back and look but I thought that Ian stopped running and Cam was throwing to where he should have been.  I thought both of the int's were on Thomas.

[TheCasillas]

Just now, stankowalski said:

I'll have to go back and look but I thought that Ian stopped running and Cam was throwing to where he should have been.  I thought both of the int's were on Thomas.

It appeared Ian read zone and tried to settle in a soft spot, but Cam had Collins in his face and threw the ball where he thought IT was going to be. 

[shaqattaq]

1 hour ago, raleigh-panther said:

Give any receiver a 10yard cushion, combined with no pressure on the qb, regardless of down and distance, and they will clean a secondary’s clock every time 

That 10 yard cushion does make things a little easier.

[MasterAwesome]

1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

Because you lack simple understanding of the game of football. 

Cam also sees Collins running right at him and sees Thomas just as open (if not more than Moore) so at that point knowing he has a split second to get it off before he’s gets rocked why wouldn’t he throw it to Thomas?

Everone knows where Jenkins is sitting don’t need all 22 to see that. You take the matchup of Thomas (your TE) on a smaller corner in Jenkins over the MLB on Moore.

It is so easy for you to go “he should’ve done this” from your couch AFTER the fact. If anything Thomas should’ve made this catch and ran over Jenkins. If you want to be mad at anyone be mad at Thomas, he’s the one out there running like a like a chicken with his head cut off 

Really?? I’m sorry, but I’m taking the matchup of Moore against a linebacker every time. Ian Thomas hasn’t shown 1/10 the elusiveness that DJ Moore has. Moore has looked amazing with the ball in his hands...if you can get him 1-on-1 against any defender, my money is on him to avoid that tackle.

[*FreeFua*]

15 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Really?? I’m sorry, but I’m taking the matchup of Moore against a linebacker every time. Ian Thomas hasn’t shown 1/10 the elusiveness that DJ Moore has. Moore has looked amazing with the ball in his hands...if you can get him 1-on-1 against any defender, my money is on him to avoid that tackle.

Linebacker was already coming downhill on Moore. 

There really isn’t much to debate here. Cam had next to no time to get rid of the ball with Collins getting a free run at him. He saw Collins and threw to Thomas who was crossing behind Collins.

 

[gmonjimbo]

1 hour ago, TheCasillas said:

When cam brings his arm back to throw - Moore is looking.

I agree with your initial assessment that the throw was rushed due to the pressure coming from Landon Collins. However, unless it was explicitly stated we don't if Ian Thomas was suppose to stop on his route or who were the primary reads on that given play. DJ Moore could have been the third or fourth read on that play.

Cam took ownership for both interceptions even though Rivera admitted that the first interception was not on him. Overall, the offense and team as a whole was not sharp yesterday.