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Ron Rivera blew all three timeouts on a single point-less drive in a fourth quarter one-score game against a divisional rival


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2 minutes ago, Sasquatch said:

Coming up on 80 posts bitching about "wasting" time-outs we didn't need in a win. Gotta love the huddle.

another post by a C-tier poster nobody cares about bitching about post counts in a thread he claims not to care about is a transcendent level of uselessness 

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I used to be a rock-solid Rivera supporter, and though still a solid supporter, I see the weaknesses in his philosophies. It is the love of vets, even when they aren't getting the job done that kills me, notwithstanding that there are greener but more talented players riding the pine. I felt a similar way about his love of Shula. 

Now he flat out fired Shula---finally---and got his man. And, Norv was the man that Rivera wanted in the first place. So that's an improvement. Now, he has also gotten Samuel and Moore involved---finally---which is also an improvement. Now, of course, I don't know whether or not that was mainly due to injury to Smith, or whether Rivera finally unlocked the chains because they were deemed ready (like was the case with the White Buffalo), but he still ultimately gets the thumbs up if only by default. So, he has improved. 

Now, this other stuff about clock management and timeouts, I can ultimately live with, because there are so many other positives, the least of which is winning. 

He's not perfect and could always be better, but he's one of the better bottom-line-results coaches that's probably out there right now.

He's good. Is he good enough to win a championship? I'd say "probably." But we won't know unless we stay the course and keep winning, or if he's fired and we keep winning or start losing. But, I think that ultimately if you knock on the door enough, eventually it's going to open. Bill Cowher is the prime example!

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Some people football knowledge is just weak. He didn't blow 3 time eouts he wasted one on a challenge. The other two saved us from get flagged cause people where out of position. The look on cams face even showed this. Blame the OC the wr Coach but to blame Ron for doing the right thing is having your head in the sand.

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5 hours ago, hepcat said:

At what point is taking a delay of game penalty a better idea than burning a timeout? Ron Rivera doesn't know the answer.

If I were a coach I would NEVER burn a timeout for a delay of game penalty in the 2nd half.  No matter the situation.  It's 5 yards.  Teams nowadays can make that up no problem.  

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We wouldn't be winning the way we are right now without this staff pulling away from the play not to lose mentality, and shifting to where they should have been all along, which is being aggressive, and calling plays that allow our playmakers to do what they do best by putting them in the best position to succeed.

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2 minutes ago, fitty76 said:

If I were a coach I would NEVER burn a timeout for a delay of game penalty in the 2nd half.  No matter the situation.  It's 5 yards.  Teams nowadays can make that up no problem.  

I get that but most teams still take the timeout.

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10 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I used to be a rock-solid Rivera supporter, and though still a solid supporter, I see the weaknesses in his philosophies. It is the love of vets, even when they aren't getting the job done that kills me, notwithstanding that there are greener but more talented players riding the pine. 

Here're your options, you have a younger player max'ed out on skills but hasn't absorbed the full playbook and you have a long toothed player with declining skills who has "been there done that" in all other ways. Do you start the young guy knowing that your playbook is very limited or do you start the old guy and have a wide open play selection although with some limitations in execution and select times to use the young guy? In both cases you  continue to develop the young with the eye to the future.

All we know is option 2 has us at 6-2 this year.

 

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8 minutes ago, Lee89 said:

he ask for it i'm sick of coming here after a damn win and see all this doom and gloom after a fuging win for God sakes.

then argue your point without the whole "idiot" thing added in. 

just that little bit of effort (by everyone, not trying to single you out) will raise the bar.

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