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Report: Rivera’s job in jeopardy


Cary Kollins

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On 12/22/2018 at 12:57 PM, raz said:

mage, you really haven't heard that before? how did you not comprehend that?  i'm bewildered.  

Are you referring to the quote "can't do anything until you prove it?"

Whether I comprehend it or not is irrelevant (which I'm perfectly capable of doing), it just didn't make much sense, especially in the context of the debate we were having.  You can literally say it about anyone.  LeBron James "couldn't win" an NBA Championship until he proved it.  Tiger Woods "couldn't win" a tournament until he proved it.  Wayne Gretzky "couldn't win" a Stanley Cup until he proved it.  

Arguing someone can't do something until they prove they can do it is a weak argument, because it applies to everyone who has walked the Earth.  A stronger argument would be to actually list reasons why someone can't accomplish something.  Andy Reid could certainly win a Super Bowl, just because he hasn't yet has more to do with a multitude of other reasons and not a complete inability to win the big game.

tl;dr Just because someone hasn't done something doesn't mean they can't do it.  It just means... they haven't done it yet.

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1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

If Rivera does lose his job this year, its going to be his terrible record against division rivals since the sb that will do him in.  Assuming we lose today, we are 5-12 against the division since our sb appearance.  

A lot of us said even this past offseason that our divisional opponents had figured Rivera out.

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10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

A lot of us said even this past offseason that our divisional opponents had figured Rivera out.

Figuring out has little to do with it.  Any coach that is in the league a couple of years gets figured out.  The problem is more along the lines of talent. Our qb has struggled with Deep balls really since 2016, our core defensive players have gotten older and the replacements are not as good.  Part of that is on Rivera of course.

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