If Matt Moore wants to play in the NFL at a higher level...

[Sword]

just wish we could see him in the dead NFL Europe....we don't really have enough game footage to see how he's gonna be..really need NFL Minors..

[Captroop]

distance and velocity in almost every case has less to do with "popped out 'ceps" and more to do with form and footwork.

throwing a football is basically the same motion as serving a tennis ball. yeah, the guys spend time in the weight room, but generally you increase your speed and distance with coaching and better form.

Well that and physical limitations play a part too. Peyton Manning and Brett Favre can heave the ball because they have hands the size of a dining room table. If someone with average sized hands threw a ball with all their might, it would slip out of their grip before the intended relase point. Favre can throw it 95-miles an hour and Manning can throw it 75 yards because their grip stretches from the back of the ball to the first lace.

[koolkatluke]

just wish we could see him in the dead NFL Europe....we don't really have enough game footage to see how he's gonna be..really need NFL Minors..

This is why it's such a good idea too play him now we have nothing too lose.

[Rypkord]

Moore will be fine starting simply because fox and davidson can't be dumb enough to make him throw 44 times in a game where your running game was working.

But then again it is Fox and Davidson we are talking about.

We will rush 50 times against the cardinals for 2.5 ypc average.

[pantherj]

What worries me about Moore are his mental errors, not so much his arm strength. He'll play lights out for a while, and then make a terrible throw out of nowhere. That points to a mental error imo. In other words, he thought the WR was running a different route, he thought the WR was further out or closer than he really was, his mental image of where the WR should be was wrong and he threw b4 looking closely..ect.

Funny thing is that with QBs you never know if they'll improve their mental ability with time, or not. Chris Weinke and David Carr can make all the Pro throws with no trouble, but put them in a game and they can't find the open recievers.

Jake can't make deep throws consistantly, and his mental ability comes and goes. At times he makes his reads and finds the open reciever in stride, and at other times he's totally confused. You can see it when he misses wide open recievers and throws into double/triple coverage. Another thing is that I think Jake is sometimes just reading half the field in order to lighten the mental load. At other times Jake will stare at a target for several seconds before throwing to that target. During the stare, Jake has no idea what the Safety (let's say) is doing. Is he keying on Jakes eyes and moving to where he is loioking? You bet, but the problem is that Jake has no idea what's going on beyond what his target is doing.

I think we'll see Moore at some point this season (barring a huge winning streak). If Moore's mental ability is no better than Jake's, then there won't be much of a difference between the two QB's, even if Moore's arm is better. My hope is that Moore can make a mental image of the plays being run, know where his recievers are, go through his checks fast, and throw to the best option quickly and accurately. Can he do that? When Jake went down he did it, but then had errors on occation. Has he become more consistant? If he has, then we are set at QB and so long Jake.

[Cyberjag]

I don't see Moore getting the start, they'll put Feeley in first. And then they'll give him a stripped-down game plan and let Williams/Stewart shoulder the load. We'll win, and people will proclaim Feeley the franchise savior. At some point, Davidson will believe he is and dial up a bunch of long passing plays for him too, and the turnovers will resume.

I'm not saying Jake is good, but to think he's the main problem here is misguided. It's like the coaches saw he was connecting on three out of five passes and got so giddy about it that they forgot Williams was averaging five yards per carry.

That problem won't go away with a change in personnel on the field.

[OneBadassCat]

If Moore plays I think he'll get the entire offense. He's been here long enough to know the system.

[OneBadassCat]

Well that and physical limitations play a part too. Peyton Manning and Brett Favre can heave the ball because they have hands the size of a dining room table. If someone with average sized hands threw a ball with all their might, it would slip out of their grip before the intended relase point. Favre can throw it 95-miles an hour and Manning can throw it 75 yards because their grip stretches from the back of the ball to the first lace.

Maybe you can answer this question for me. I've always wondered do NFL rules require the QBs to play with fully inflated footballs or are they allowed to have a little bit of squeeze?

[Zod]

Moore has a strong arm if training camp is any indication. Jase is just pulling stuff out of his arse again, a hobby of his.

[Jase]

Strong compared to what, zod?

Maybe you've forgotten his attempts at deep balls fluttering in the wind and falling short 30 yards down the field.

[NYbucsfanNY]

trade for Jamarcus Russell. He has a strong arm.

Arm Strength isn't 1 of the 5 most important attributes for a QB to have.

[Captroop]

Maybe you can answer this question for me. I've always wondered do NFL rules require the QBs to play with fully inflated footballs or are they allowed to have a little bit of squeeze?

I remember watching the college QB challenge before the Super Bowl a few year ago. And before the long throw competition, ESPN interviewed one of the QBs (forget who it was, maybe Aaron Rogers) about any strategy he might use. The QB proceeded to sift through several balls laying on the ground, he remarked that the perfect ball is "a peach," i.e. not too firm, not too soft. So QBs prefer a ball that is a little deflated. Of course you're at the mercy of the home team. The home QB (unless I am grossly misinformed) picks which balls will be used in the game before the game starts, so if he likes a ball that's bursting at the seams, you've got to deal with it.

[PuntJake]

... he's going to have to improve his arm strength somehow. To say he has average arm strength is being extremely kind.

Anybody know if this is something our strength and conditioning coaches can help much with?

And before the inevitable "but, pennington" responses come, let me ask you, how many other weak armed QBs have had success recently?

orton?

[Sam Mills Fan]

LOL Jase

Moore's arm strength looked great on Sunday.