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33 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

We wouldn’t have been looking at Allen Bailey in a 4-3 defense. I think it will be how the draft pans out.  If we get Burns and another depth 3-4 DE we could go more 3-4 looks than 4-3.  That’s why I think we didn’t sign Bailey.  We have to figure out what pieces we have before we go full bore 3-4.  

You got me thinking about something assuming we get Burns (and indications are the team is smitten with him) what a 3-4 formation would look like?  Making some serious assumptions here, but the team takes Burns for a 3-4 OLB and an actual DE fitting more of the 3-4 like Isaiah Buggs, for example, I could envision our front seven in that formation looking something like this:

DE KK (slimmed down close to 300 pounds )-Poe NT-  DE Isaiah Buggs

OLB Haynes-ILB Shaq-ILB Luke-OLB Burns

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Buggs scares me. He should be up there in the mix with the other 1st round DL talents, I just don't think the guy wants it. If he had any kind of motor he'd be a 1st round lock. Instead, he'll probably fall to the mid-rounds where some team will roll the dice on his talent know he's probably going to wash out of the league due to lack of want to.

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Buggs scares me. He should be up there in the mix with the other 1st round DL talents, I just don't think the guy wants it. If he had any kind of motor he'd be a 1st round lock. Instead, he'll probably fall to the mid-rounds where some team will roll the dice on his talent know he's probably going to wash out of the league due to lack of want to.

That's the reason I think he'll be more of a 3-4 end, to tie up the OT/G and allow the LBs to attack.  He has power, but doesn't have the motor or quickness for a 4-3 end.  I agree with you there.  I envision him in the 3rd round. If we are serious about going 3-4, I doubt we get just one piece of the puzzle in the draft.   That's the knock on Burns is he can disengage and why I think he's more of a OLB.  He's not going to get clean releases often as a 4-3 end in the NFL.

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8 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

That's the reason I think he'll be more of a 3-4 end, to tie up the OT/G and allow the LBs to attack.  He has power, but doesn't have the motor or quickness for a 4-3 end.  I agree with you there.  I envision him in the 3rd round. If we are serious about going 3-4, I doubt we get just one piece of the puzzle in the draft.   That's the knock on Burns is he can disengage and why I think he's more of a OLB.  He's not going to get clean releases often as a 4-3 end in the NFL.

But he doesn’t have the length to play 3/4 DE either.  He is 6’ and has the shortest arms in the draft if I recall correctly. His stock is plummeting. 

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42 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

But he doesn’t have the length to play 3/4 DE either.  He is 6’ and has the shortest arms in the draft if I recall correctly. His stock is plummeting. 

So If we take Burns as an OLB, who would you like for a 3-4 end in the draft?  Do you think any of our current DEs fit the mold?  I don't, Addison and Cox Jr are undersized and Obada is still figuring out how to be an effective 4-3 end.  Something will have to give.

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On 4/12/2019 at 10:03 AM, Pantha-kun said:

Wouldn't be surprised if all the DEs fly off the board before 16 and we end up getting the best available OT. 

I think that Taylor is the consensus best OT in the draft. IF he's still on the board at 16 (which I doubt)I hope we grab him like he's the last biscuit on the tray! DE be damned!

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