WOW pff stat: cam's time to throw will surprise you!

[jfra78]

Just now, Saca312 said:

NFL is incredibly fast in speed. A quarter of a second goes a long way.

Yea, but he said noticeably, meaning we could tell. 

[Sgt Schultz]

When you are in the shotgun, take the snap, and your first look catches your OL looking back at either you or the pass rusher they whiffed on about to pummel you, you can get the ball out pretty quickly.

Unfortunately, whether you do or don't, you get hit either way.

[Bartin]

That stat does not mean what you think it means. Time to throw is the amount of time from the snap until the ball is thrown. It is not “time to pressure.” It is solely a measure of how quickly a QB is distributing the ball. Obviously the OL can be a factor but this is mostly to do with playcalling, decision making and WRs getting open.

[Saca312]

Just now, Peppers90 NC said:

Are they saying Allen has more time with a clean pocket or just that Cam is throwing quicker? I assumed it was the more time in pocket to make the right throw. The Williams experiment was obviously a terrible one, we can all 100% agree on that.

Both.

Average time in pocket is determined by how much time a QB has before pressure hits.

[Peppers90 NC]

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

What makes this interesting is the opinion by many that Allen gets rid of the ball quicker than Cam. He doesn't.

Just like yesterday when there was the comparison between Cam's stats while healthy and with Norv last year and Allen this year. They pretty much shot down the notion that Allen is a better fit for Norvs system than Cam. Cam was doing incredibly well with it and was scoring more.

Getting rid of the ball quicker isnt always the right thing. Hanging in waiting for guys to get separation is important as well. Basically, this is just a confusing tweet. I assume in is insinuating pressure was getting to Cam quicker than to Allen forcing bad throws, which seems pretty obvious.

[Saca312]

Just now, Bartin said:

That stat does not mean what you think it means

 

[Saca312]

Just now, Peppers90 NC said:

Getting rid of the ball quicker isnt always the right thing. Hanging in waiting for guys to get separation is important as well. Basically, this is just a confusing tweet. I assume in is insinuating pressure was getting to Cam quicker than to Allen forcing bad throws, which seems pretty obvious.

I mean I can assure you Cam definitely was better at waiting for his reads to develop in their routes moreso than Kyle has, which I went over in my other thread.

[JawnyBlaze]

5 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

How do you notice a quarter of a second?

Because it’s not a quarter of a second on each throw. It’s an average. And anyone with eyes can tel the line has blocked better since Allen started playing. Williams was a huge liability on the left. And I assume Palardy is starting to gel with the rest in his role better after a couple live games. 

[Wolfpack352]

4 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

NFL is incredibly fast in speed. A quarter of a second goes a long way.

It is fast indeed, nothing a little side step, or step up, or step back that can give you a half sec to make a throw.

[rayzor]

Just now, Peppers90 NC said:

Getting rid of the ball quicker isnt always the right thing. Hanging in waiting for guys to get separation is important as well. Basically, this is just a confusing tweet. I assume in is insinuating pressure was getting to Cam quicker than to Allen forcing bad throws, which seems pretty obvious.

Except the evidence showed to the contrary. Despite having a worse OL and worse receivers, Cam got the ball out and was playing more efficiently than ever and we were scoring more points than we are now.

 

[jfra78]

3 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

I mean I can assure you Cam definitely was better at waiting for his reads to develop in their routes moreso than Kyle has, which I went over in my other thread.

So he is waiting and getting the ball out quicker at the same time?

[Bartin]

2 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

 

And BillyM is wrong and doesn’t know what he is talking about.

Average time to throw is how long until the ball is thrown.

Average time in pocket is how long until the ball is thrown, QB is sacked or QB bails out of the pocket.

[Saca312]

3 minutes ago, Bartin said:

And BillyM is wrong and doesn’t know what he is talking about.

Average time to throw is how long until the ball is thrown.

Average time in pocket is how long until the ball is thrown, QB is sacked or QB bails out of the pocket.

i mean he's quoting from pff, so unless you have a screenshot from pff's site to refute that, i tend to trust billy on where he gets his information concerning his stats from.

[ChibCU]

18 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Not really.

All it shows is statistical evidence that Kyle Allen hasn't been getting the ball out quicker than Cam.

Shows they're both just as quick, Cam being a little faster in fact.

Imagine this:

QB1 is unable to throw deep balls

QB2 is able to throw deep balls

Would that possibly alter average throwing time? #sacafail