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The de-evolution of the hb screen

hdevonxz

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Seriously this play with DWill used to always bring positive yardage. Yet it has rarely been used lately.

I don't know if the coaching staff didn't realize this or not but the hb screen would have been tremendously successful against the Giants for several obvious reasons.

1. The last 2 loses the Giants endured they were dominated by the HB screen. Look at Tashards and Westbrokes stats from those games. I seriously don't get how they don't run the play once. I'm trusting they watch the game film on those 2 games. Hell I'm just a fan and I saw it.

2. Think back to 2006 against the Eagles. The Eagles and Giants run very similar defenses. We torched the Eagles with hb screens that entire game. Now think who the defensive coordiantors are for the giants and eagles. I'm hoping our coaching staff saw these similarities.

3. DeAngelo Williams is one of the best backs in space. Enough said but I will elaborate. Coming out of college Dwill held the record for scrimmage yards. That just screams what he can do. In space Dwill is deadly we need to harvest that potential more like we did when he was a rookie. Hell Jstew was the highest rated pass catching running back.

4. In game adjustments. It honestly seems like the panthers don't do it. In the 2nd half the Giants were blitzing on every first down. RUN BLITZING. That should tell you that the offense is becoming too predictable. When the Giants came with those blitz if we had of hit them with a screen with Dwill I gurantee you it would have resulted in points if not a td then a fg at least. When you start off at the oppositions 49 yard line there is no excuse for not getting any points.

I like what Jeff Davidson is doing cause its clear were having success and scoring points but the team can't afford to be incosistent and stagnent in crucial times. We need to mix it up more. And for gods sake adjust.

Fax this to Davidson.

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I was saying all week I hope we utilize the screen because that is the only play that kept Dallas going to offset their pass rush. We did a hell of a job protecting Jake last night, props to the O-Line. We have never been able to use the HB screen since Fox arrived for some reason, although I think this line is athletic enough to execute it. One thing I dont agree with you is that DeAngelo works well in space. Not that he doenst, I think he does better at creating space. Regardless, the screen plays let our line get him upfield to make moves.

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Luckily we have a chance to play them again no matter what. We've already clinched the playoffs, the only question is when and where do we play? Honestly, I'd rather not use the HB screen now just so we can force them to compensate realtime in a game that matters more. This would mean they can't gameplan specifically against it if we meet again. Sort of holding the cards closely to the chest in a game we can still play hard inbut afford to lose. If anything, it showed what we're already capable on the Giants.. in THEIR house.

I think if we had won, we probably wouldn't be playing to win against the Saints since we would have had tiebreaker over the giants anyway even if they won again. But losing would force us to play hard and fight for victory. So technically if we lose then win against the giants, we run the risk of taking 2 weeks off and possibly losing focus, whereas if we win against the saints, we only get 1 week off. Of course these are all ifs.

I think Davidson has his blueprint for the next game now. He scored 28 the first time, let's see what we do next time.

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I've been thinking, maybe we have been doing less of what works. So maybe the playoff teams only pay attention to what we have been doing for the last few weeks. And then in the playoffs we bring back what has worked early on.

just throwing that out there...

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