Re-Built in the image of Cam Newton

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Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

So would you then sign him to a 5 year $175 million contract because thats probably the minimum he would sign for.

Since we are making things up.

I bet he'd sign for a 5 year $15.75 contract.  That is probably the maximum he would sign for.

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1 minute ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Who says Cam would want 30 million to stay? What if hes willing to take a team friendly deal? It's never been about money for Cam. He makes plenty through endorsements and other ventures. If we get about 8 wins and our offense is looking pretty good then yes you pay him. If he struggles and is inconsistent then you let him go (I seriously doubt we win many games if Cam isnt balling out) we lose nothing. It seems like you want us to go full on tank before the draft has even happened. I can tell you that is 100% the wrong mentality. I know it looks enticing at the thought of having the #1 pick next year but I promise you that is more of a gamble than seeing what Cam can do on a 1 year prove it deal.

thats the going rate for franchise qbs.  How much of a discount you think he is going to take?  I seriously doubt he would do a 5year 125mil deal.  Why would he?

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Just now, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Since we are making things up.

I bet he'd sign for a 5 year $15.75 contract.  That is probably the maximum he would sign for.

How is that making things up.  Go look at the last qbs that signed.   Dak turned down 30million.  He wants 40.  Look at goff.  look at wentz. 

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Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

thats the going rate for franchise qbs.  How much of a discount you think he is going to take?  I seriously doubt he would do a 5year 125mil deal.  Why would he?

When he signed his first contract extension was he made to be the highest paid qb? Was he even top 5 in salary per year when he signed that first contract? Pretty sure he gave the team a pretty solid deal and I'm willing to bet hed do it again. It's not uncommon. Brady has done it almost his entire career.

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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

thats the going rate for franchise qbs.  How much of a discount you think he is going to take?  I seriously doubt he would do a 5year 125mil deal.  Why would he?

Hold on. Let's see what Cam looks like with Joe Brady calling the plays. I'm guessing Cam will win Comeback Player of the Year and possibly MVP #2

If Cam does have a great season then he'll be worth whatever we sign him to.

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Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

How is that making things up.  Go look at the last qbs that signed.   Dak turned down 30million.  He wants 40.  Look at goff.  look at wentz

And go look at the last time Newton signed a contract.  2015.  He didn't even sign a contract that put him into the top 5 for QBs.  In 2016, he was barely in the top 10.  Newton hasn't looked to push his contract to the highest possible.

 

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2 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

When he signed his first contract extension was he made to be the highest paid qb? Was he even top 5 in salary per year when he signed that first contract? Pretty sure he gave the team a pretty solid deal and I'm willing to bet hed do it again. It's not uncommon. Brady has done it almost his entire career.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/6/3/8699639/cam-newton-contract-cap-hit-structure-carolina-panthers

 

This says it was top 3 at the time but obviously things are fluid

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2 minutes ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

Hold on. Let's see what Cam looks like with Joe Brady calling the plays. I'm guessing Cam will win Comeback Player of the Year and possibly MVP #2

If Cam does have a great season then he'll be worth whatever we sign him to.

Dude this hyperbole doesnt help anyone discussing cam

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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/6/3/8699639/cam-newton-contract-cap-hit-structure-carolina-panthers

 

This says it was top 3 at the time but obviously things are fluid

He was 9th in cap hit after signing his deal. https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2016/

This was after his MVP season at 26 years old. That's a crazy bargain.

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

How is that making things up.  Go look at the last qbs that signed.   Dak turned down 30million.  He wants 40.  Look at goff.  look at wentz. 

Some have visions that Cam loves them and that he is not a real person, that he will not be like other people who actually work for money.

Inevitably, when a player says to his team, "its not about the money" it has always turned out to be about the money.  Cam should be no different.

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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/6/3/8699639/cam-newton-contract-cap-hit-structure-carolina-panthers

 

This says it was top 3 at the time but obviously things are fluid

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/2015/average/quarterback/

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Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

Dude this hyperbole doesnt help anyone discussing cam

lol hyperbole .. what the hell do you think a healthy Cam and Joe Brady is going to look like?

It's going to be amazing. I'm telling you. Next season our offense is going to be a beautiful thing.

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1 minute ago, stirs said:

Some have visions that Cam loves them and that he is not a real person, that he will not be like other people who actually work for money.

Inevitably, when a player says to his team, "its not about the money" it has always turned out to be about the money.  Cam should be no different.

Except I just proved it's never been about the money for Cam.

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1 minute ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

He was 9th in cap hit after signing his deal. https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/2016/

This was after his MVP season at 26 years old. That's a crazy bargain.

Nice link.  That works