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2 minutes ago, philit99 said:

Yes I think two weeks. Those that are asymptotic will have gotten sick. We can begin to stop the spread of this disease. If we can stop the spread we can begin to recover. 

did you come up with this idea on your own?  are you an infectious disease specialist?  

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2 minutes ago, raz said:

did you come up with this idea on your own?  are you an infectious disease specialist?  

No I’m not, it is what China did to stop the disease. I trust them as far as I can throw them, but if we can stop the spread of this disease, we can treat those that are affected, and begin to recover.

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you do realize philit99 that is just the incubation period right, and that people stay contagious past the 2 weeks, and that some people are asymptomatic, and would still have it and be contagious after 2 weeks.  that for the 2 week plan to have any chance of success we would need to test every person in the country

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1 minute ago, philit99 said:

No I’m not, it is what China did to stop the disease. I trust them as far as I can throw them, but if we can stop the spread of this disease, we can treat those that are affected, and begin to recover.

Never trust the Chinese.

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16 minutes ago, philit99 said:

Yes I think two weeks. Those that are asymptotic will have gotten sick. We can begin to stop the spread of this disease. If we can stop the spread we can begin to recover. 

https://www.jwatch.org/na51083/2020/03/13/covid-19-incubation-period-update

Some of the preliminary China data seems to back that idea.

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7 minutes ago, raz said:

you do realize philit99 that is just the incubation period right, and that people stay contagious past the 2 weeks, and that some people are asymptomatic, and would still have it and be contagious after 2 weeks.  that for the 2 week plan to have any chance of success we would need to test every person in the country

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-most-contagious-before-during-first-week-symptoms/amp

 

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i don't think you understand that study

The more I see your posts, the more I am convinced you are just freaking out and that no amount of data will change that. I posted the incubation data and the early data about how long it is contagious. What else do you want?

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The more I see your posts, the more I am convinced you are just freaking out and that no amount of data will change that. I posted the incubation data and the early data about how long it is contagious. What else do you want?

i'm not freaking out at all.  i have my own mountain i live on.   you put up a study of 161 people about how long to quarantine sick people, and most of them show symptoms in 14 days, most.   and you kinda left out this part:

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These findings confirm the current recommendations for quarantine: Most patients who become symptomatic do so within 11 or 12 days and the vast majority within 14 days. However, we already know that asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic persons can transmit infection, and this group was not included here. Better access to testing for asymptomatic infection will shed light on this issue.

 

14 days isn't going to do anything in the long run.  it will just start right back up.   you're just not able to interpret data and you should stop pretending that you know how.  as i said before we would need to test every single person in the country during this 2 week period you speak of, and there would need to be a 0 transmission rate during this period.  neither of those is possible in any sort of way

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24 minutes ago, raz said:

you do realize philit99 that is just the incubation period right, and that people stay contagious past the 2 weeks, and that some people are asymptomatic, and would still have it and be contagious after 2 weeks.  that for the 2 week plan to have any chance of success we would need to test every person in the country

Yes I realize that. What I am trying to convey is that we would have passed the asymptotic period, so people would not unknowingly pass it along. Those that are sick can seek treatment and stay away from the public. If not every American will catch this virus, it is almost impossible to miss it. Also, the longer this thing goes the deeper this recession and depression will last. It could be decades before we recover. What we do as a public now, determines how bad this will be in America.

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1 minute ago, philit99 said:

Yes I realize that. What I am trying to convey is that we would have passed the asymptotic period, so people would not unknowingly pass it along. Those that are sick can seek treatment and stay away from the public. If not every American will catch this virus, it is almost impossible to miss it. Also, the longer this thing goes the deeper this recession and depression will last. It could be decades before we recover. What we do as a public now, determines how bad this will be in America.

some people never have a symptomatic period. we don't have the ability to test every person in the country, much less a state, or a county, or a city.   while it would be nice if this worked, and i def agree about the economy, it won't work.   i am not panicked.  i am not worried. i am watching.   

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