what does a base 4-3 mean for Burns?

[Yaboychris28]

Hopefully the Panthers provided him with a weight room, trainer, and chef during this Covid 19 lol. He needs to bulk up

[WOW!!]

5 hours ago, CRA said:

Jared Allen was only 255-260

Jason Taylor was 240 his whole HOF career.. 

Ppl just be posting with no actual research to their opinions. 

[Waldo]

5 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Jason Taylor was 240 his whole HOF career.. 

Ppl just be posting with no actual research to their opinions. 

Jason Taylor was the exception. That dude was built differently. 6'6" and 244 lbs but he was much stronger than his weight, had long arms and was quick. If Burns is 2/3 of Taylor then we are more than fine. I lived in Florida when he was playing down there and loved his play. The Phins suck but he was great to watch. 

Burns is a faster but I don't think he has Taylor's play strength...yet at least. 

Taylor       Burns

I would love this to be what happens with Burns. 

[Matt62881]

15 hours ago, electro's horse said:

that's a small DE....

He played with his hand in the dirt most of his snaps last year and had a amazing pressure percent and got planty of sacks for his playing time. Brown will help and he can add size to help against the run. 

[CPF4LIFE]

I believe in Burns, i still think he was a great pick, Adding brown only helps his game. 

[JARROD]

personally if we draft McKinney next and then a big long corner in the 3rd if we can get one then I’m excited to see Burns play with Brown and KK.  Or if we draft YGM and then Delpit maybe...

I think Burns turns a corner this year. We only saw him for 5 games... just wait until he plays 16

[MHS831]

8 hours ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

What Superb owl were you watching... Miller and Ware were OLBs that strictly rushed the edge. Oher held up ok, Remmers not so much...

It was a 4-3 basic set that was modified--watch again and read up on it. I thought the same thing--not as simple as you describe.

This from an article I quickly Googled:

But how exactly does Denver utilize Von Miller?

Miller at 6'3" 237 lbs. (per NFL.com) does not have the stature of a traditional 4-3 Defensive End, yet the Broncos defenses, under John Fox, Dennis Allen, and Jack Del Rio, have essentially run a 4-3 Defense. Miller, with the size of an outside linebacker, saw 960 defensive snaps last season for Denver, 90% of the Broncos' total defensive snaps. Where does Miller fit into a traditional 4-3?

In essence, the Broncos use a blend of schematic flexibility and ingenuity to accommodate for Miller's size, and take advantage of his impressive athleticism.

 

[MMA]

No he’s not. I’m willing to bet that Burns got bigger and stronger already. He’s about the same exact size as Yannick who is thriving as a 43 DE.  Go get Yetur or AJ and Lynch and watch Burns explode this upcoming season. I don’t want to hear anymore bullshit about Burns’ size.

[Jimmy]

It means he'll eat...period.

[JARROD]

Just now, MHS831 said:

It was a 4-3 basic set that was modified--watch again and read up on it. I thought the same thing--not as simple as you describe.

Yeh not the same. Wade Phillips is big on having fluid defense that adjusts to the strengths of his players.

he doesn’t have a square Madden thinking 3-4 or 4-3. That’s for square coaches and people that are too linear in their thinking.

Ron and Shula were what I just beat up,.. just like Fox or Fisher— too linear... too square in thinking. 
 

that causes a lot of putting round peg square hole or making a guy do a few things he’s good at a whole bunch he’s not.

stupid thinking

[MHS831]

3 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Yeh not the same. Wade Phillips is big on having fluid defense that adjusts to the strengths of his players.

he doesn’t have a square Madden thinking 3-4 or 4-3. That’s for square coaches and people that are too linear in their thinking.

Ron and Shula were what I just beat up,.. just like Fox or Fisher— too linear... too square in thinking. 
 

that causes a lot of putting round peg square hole or making a guy do a few things he’s good at a whole bunch he’s not.

stupid thinking

Yes--and these days vs the spreads and such, the difference is nearly indistinguishable, which is why I understand the criticisms and head scratching--and why they want versatile defenders. I hate bringing it up because I do not know enough to explain it with clarity.

[JARROD]

5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Yes--and these days vs the spreads and such, the difference is nearly indistinguishable, which is why I understand the criticisms and head scratching--and why they want versatile defenders. I hate bringing it up because I do not know enough to explain it with clarity.

Well you explain it with clarity and I understand it.

still, many play too many video games, never played the real game or did under very square coaches in the old world. They don’t get being flexible and changing schemes to fit players instead of trying to change players to fit schemes.

belicheck has made a living finding strengths in players and using them to his advantage when others saw them as garbage.

others are too square, can’t think outside their own box they made for themselves.