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After watching the draft, I want football cancelled until it can be back to normal.


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football just isn’t the same under the current conditions. Football used to be an escape from reality and all the bad poo going on in the world,  the draft last night was anything but.. it was sad, it was gloomy and I came out of the draft feeling more depressed and down in the dumps then I did before I watched it.
 

Where to begin.. First the obvious, all the depressing songs pre draft.. They were so somber and depressing, the constant barrage of soapy covid commercials, the commentators constantly talking about it. Even the players being drafted seemed to be so low energy and apathetic not even showing excitement they got drafted. The whole thing felt more like one super long Covid 19 telecast that happened to have the NFL draft going on in the background. I literally had to turn the TV off after our pick was announced and even then, looking back, I wish I never watched any of it.

 

if you think last nights was bad, wait how depressing NFL games with literally zero fans in attendance is going to be. Home field advantage and the 12th man is such a HUGE part of the NFL. It’s a huge aspect that make the games mean much more. Think about it, what is even the point of playing in the super dome and the clink without those fans (as much as I hate them btw) no. I say cancel the entire season until it can be done RIGHT. 

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You are more than likely going to get your wish. There will be another wave of this in the fall and while I think college sports are certainly on the chopping block for the rest of the year, pro sports are probably a lot closer to being cancelled than folks want to admit. Honestly, and I am not a doctor, I think we are looking at a 2 year hiatus from things being normal. 

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6 minutes ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

football just isn’t the same under the current conditions. Football used to be an escape from reality and all the bad poo going on in the world,  the draft last night was anything but.. it was sad, it was gloomy and I came out of the draft feeling more depressed and down in the dumps then I did before I watched it. Where to begin.. First the obvious, all the depressing songs pre draft.. They were so somber and depressing, the constant barrage of soapy covid commercials, the commentators constantly talking about it. Even the players being drafted seemed to be so low energy and apathetic not even showing excitement they got drafted. The whole thing felt more like one super long Covid 19 telecast that happened to have the NFL draft going on in the background. I literally had to turn the TV off after our pick was announced and even then, looking back, I wish I never watched any of it.

 

if you think last nights was bad, wait how depressing NFL games with literally zero fans in attendance is going to be. Home field advantage and the 12th man is such a HUGE part of the NFL. It’s a huge aspect that make the games mean much more. Think about it, what is even the point of playing in the super dome and the clink without those fans (as much as I hate them btw) no. I say cancel the entire season until it can be done RIGHT. 

If they decide to play games in empty stadiums with limited personnel and human interaction - all it will take is for one player or team member to test positive and things will be shelved again. There is insufficient testing and resources and it is unethical and flat out wrong to test professional athletes and rich people once a week for 3 months of the year as part of their routine. 

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Take what you can get. We are Panther's fans, we are built for that is basically training camp all year for a less than stellar roster and a rookie coaching staff.If there was ever a throw away year, this is one for us.

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2 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

You are more than likely going to get your wish. There will be another wave of this in the fall and while I think college sports are certainly on the chopping block for the rest of the year, pro sports are probably a lot closer to being cancelled than folks want to admit. Honestly, and I am not a doctor, I think we are looking at a 2 year hiatus from things being normal. 

Not to get into the weeds but what baffles me is first they said once we get more testing and find out the true mortality rate, we cant re open. Both CA and NY have done that in the last week and have concluded the death rate is 0.5%, which is MUCH lower than thought, so why do we have to shut down for a virus with literally a 99.5% Survival rate? It seems like the goal posts are moving daily 

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2 minutes ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

Not to get into the weeds but what baffles me is first they said once we get more testing and find out the true mortality rate, we cant re open. Both CA and NY have done that in the last week and have concluded the death rate is 0.5%, which is MUCH lower than thought, so why do we have to shut down for a virus with literally a 99.5% Survival rate? It seems like the goal posts are moving daily 

The narrative and information changes on this weekly. It’s uncharted territory. Are you comfortable putting your family at risk for the benefit of others? I’m not. 
 

 The most important thing is to listen to the guidance of experts and trained professionals, not people who want the sick to inject Lysol into their bloodstreams. 

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Just now, 4Corners said:

The narrative and information changes on this weekly. It’s uncharted territory. The most important thing is to listen to the guidance of experts and trained professionals, not people who want the sick to inject Lysol into their bloodstreams. 

This isnt from Trump though, Gov Cuomo literally said yesterday that so far testing has shown that 3 million NY residents had the virus which means the death rare is just 0.5%, same goes for CA. It seems like everyday they change their guidelines on when we can re open. First it was flatten the curve, well that’s happened, then they say we need more testing to get the real mortality rate, that’s happening but now they are saying “Well, this and that blah blah” 

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13 minutes ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

football just isn’t the same under the current conditions. Football used to be an escape from reality and all the bad poo going on in the world,  the draft last night was anything but.. it was sad, it was gloomy and I came out of the draft feeling more depressed and down in the dumps then I did before I watched it.
 

Where to begin.. First the obvious, all the depressing songs pre draft.. They were so somber and depressing, the constant barrage of soapy covid commercials, the commentators constantly talking about it. Even the players being drafted seemed to be so low energy and apathetic not even showing excitement they got drafted. The whole thing felt more like one super long Covid 19 telecast that happened to have the NFL draft going on in the background. I literally had to turn the TV off after our pick was announced and even then, looking back, I wish I never watched any of it.

 

if you think last nights was bad, wait how depressing NFL games with literally zero fans in attendance is going to be. Home field advantage and the 12th man is such a HUGE part of the NFL. It’s a huge aspect that make the games mean much more. Think about it, what is even the point of playing in the super dome and the clink without those fans (as much as I hate them btw) no. I say cancel the entire season until it can be done RIGHT. 

The NFL Marketing people do a great job of hitching their wagons to whatever feel good thing is out there at the time. So right now everyone has a hard-on for nurses who are crying into tiktok videos, so the NFL is going to try and capture and capitalize on that. They’ve always done that. 

Also, as fans, we can’t pay ourselves on the back too much about how we affect the game. Sure teams pump up the fans with the “your the best fans in the world” poo, but other than the few instances where a team is really close to the end zone or it’s really, really over the top loud, fans don’t really affect the games at all.

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1 minute ago, run-run-pass-punt said:

I mentioned before that I think NFL without butts in the seats will be a massive flop. I don't think people really understand the dynamics of game day if they believe that it will be engaging without a crowd in the stadium.

Exactly! I challenge anyone who wants football back if it means empty stadiums to go and watch recent wwe matches with empty arenas, tell me if you still think it’s good idea

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8 minutes ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

Not to get into the weeds but what baffles me is first they said once we get more testing and find out the true mortality rate, we cant re open. Both CA and NY have done that in the last week and have concluded the death rate is 0.5%, which is MUCH lower than thought, so why do we have to shut down for a virus with literally a 99.5% Survival rate? It seems like the goal posts are moving daily 

Because the government LOVES a crisis that makes people more dependent on them and gives them more control. 

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1 minute ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

This isnt from Trump though, Gov Cuomo literally said yesterday that so far testing has shown that 3 million NY residents had the virus which means the death rare is just 0.5%, same goes for CA. It seems like everyday they change their guidelines on when we can re open. First it was flatten the curve, well that’s happened, then they say we need more testing to get the real mortality rate, that’s happening but now they are saying “Well, this and that blah blah” 

I saw what you mentioned and there is no concrete evidence, only suspicion, about the undocumented number of people who may have had the disease. Gov Cuomo may be right but it’s still too early to tell. I was sick as hell before Valentine’s Day and tested flu negative. 
 

also, I don’t know where you are getting the “flatten the curve” stuff because that isn’t true. NC had its second highest diagnosis’ yesterday. 
 

there Are a lot of people not working together on this in the USA and honestly sports are probably the furthest thing for people to worry about. 

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