New PFF Mock (Interesting Panthers Pick, new QB in top-15)

[saX man]

They have us at 5 which I think may be our highest possible spot (maybe 3 or 4):

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5. CAROLINA PANTHERS — LB MICAH PARSONS, PENN STATE

The Panthers could use talent at pretty much any level of their defense, and you won’t find a more talented linebacker than Parsons. He’s as complete a linebacker prospect as we’ve ever graded at the college level.

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-mock-draft-trevor-lawrence-jets-at-no-1-overall-justin-fields-washington-football-team

Another notable change, a new QB name in the top-15:

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15. LAS VEGAS RAIDERS — QB KYLE TRASK, FLORIDA

If the Raiders miss the playoffs for the third straight season under head coach Jon Gruden, you can bet all options will be on the table at the quarterback position. Trask seems like just the type of pocket passer Gruden craves, and if he plays as he did in Week 1 for the rest of the season, the Raiders will have to trade up for him. He had four big-time throws in a superb 416-yard passing day against Ole Miss.

Now I put my name behind this Florida kid the other day.  He may be a flavor of the week but I like everything I read.  Overall, I think there are 3-4 non-Fields/Lance QBs to track this season as their progression/growth could put them in our favor/shine a new light.  I think these guys have legit starting QB potential.  Especially considering who is currently starting around the league.  Don't forget how Burrow and others have seemed to go from typical SEC Joey High School QB to legit NFL talent in a year's time.

Names (They could legit rocket into R1 by year's end):

Kyle Trask, Florida, 6'5 240

I think Dan Mullen is a fine coach that grooms QBs quite well.  This is a different Florida than in years past with Meyer, etc.

What he needs to work on: Mechanics, using his arm strength, leading receivers a bit more.  Has a lot of intangibles and the size+arm strength is there, it's about utilization and efficiency.  Think a tad slower Josh Allen. 

Sam Ehlinger, Texas, 6'3 230

Hot name of the week for leading a furious comeback but for a reason.  His biggest hurdle is controlling his intermediate accuracy but he is a scrappy, leader, playmaker.  He makes up for his average arm strength being very smart at anticipation.  If he can get his accuracy under control, could be a legitimate starting QB.  

Tanner Morgan 6'2 216

Decent size, a winner, mobility, good zip on his intermediate throws.  His release is lightning quick, and I mean lightning quick.  Efficiency and accuracy has improved but he tends to get a bit gunslinger-ish.  The pedigree, ideal size, and schools the other top-QBs are coming from sets him back and he's had both Bateman and Tyler Johnson as his receivers, but I see something really interesting in Morgan.   Depending on resuming play, I could see a monster year really bringing his stock up.  Could return next year but if he has a good enough season should probably capitalize and opt for the big leagues.

KJ Costello, 6'5 222 Miss State

I threw him on because of his first week.  Being in a Leach offense, his stat lines will definitely be magnifying his hype.  Not sold, but another one to watch.

I think he's more of a 2nd-4th rounder. 

https://nflmocks.com/2020/09/28/mississippi-state-kj-costello-2021-nfl-draft-prospect/

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Not putting much stock in Jamie Newman or Kellen Mond (especially).  Very meh for me, far behind in development as NFL passers. 

[CRA]

well, they certainly have studied Marty Hurney well. 

[saX man]

12 minutes ago, CRA said:

well, they certain have studied Marty Hurney well. 

Methinks we keep it offense in R1.  Last year was defense, this year it's offense.  QB, C, LT, TE, RB2

[mrcompletely11]

I would bet dollars to donuts that TL says hell to the no to the Jets especially if Gase is still there.  I would bet anything.

[CRA]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I would bet dollars to donuts that TL says hell to the no to the Jets especially if Gase is still there.  I would bet anything.

Gase won't finish out the year.   

[saX man]

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I would bet dollars to donuts that TL says hell to the no to the Jets especially if Gase is still there.  I would bet anything.

Let's say the NYG end up #1 with Barkley out.  What is Daniel Jones realistically worth if they go Lawrence? Same with Darnold.  Is he a decent QB getting broken by Gase and a terrible team?

Not saying for us to trade for but in general.  If Jones continues to show regression, with a Gettleman assembled offense (Lol at their receivers, eerily similar), DG is gone, Jones is traded, Trevor is a NYG.

 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, saX man said:

Let's say the NYG end up #1 with Barkley out.  What is Daniel Jones realistically worth if they go Lawrence? Same with Darnold.  Is he a decent QB getting broken by Gase and a terrible team?

Not saying for us to trade for but in general.  If Jones continues to show regression, with a Gettleman assembled offense (Lol at their receivers, eerily similar), DG is gone, Jones is traded, Trevor is a NYG.

 

I havent seen much of Jones.  Seems like a good athletic kid in a bad situation.  From the little I have seen he looks like a deer in the head lights and holds the ball way too much and makes some crazy throws when under pressure.  I would much rather take a flyer on Darnold if thats the route we go, which I hope it isnt.  Darnold has talent but has been surrounded by idiot coaches. 

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I havent seen much of Jones.  Seems like a good athletic kid in a bad situation.  From the little I have seen he looks like a deer in the head lights and holds the ball way too much and makes some crazy throws when under pressure.  I would much rather take a flyer on Darnold if thats the route we go, which I hope it isnt.  Darnold has talent but has been surrounded by idiot coaches. 

I wish someone could explain to me what Daniel Jones ever did to deserve to be drafted where he was. 

 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

I wish someone could explain to me what Daniel Jones ever did to deserve to be drafted where he was. 

 

You know the answer..................

[saX man]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

I wish someone could explain to me what Daniel Jones ever did to deserve to be drafted where he was. 

 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, saX man said:

DG is thinking he is smarter than everyone else.  I remember him literally laughing at analytics post draft when they drafted Barkley and again when they got Jones. 

[top dawg]

34 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I would bet dollars to donuts that TL says hell to the no to the Jets especially if Gase is still there.  I would bet anything.

It's rumored that Gase will get canned if he doesn't win tonight.

[top dawg]

We need a linebacker pretty badly!

[Bartin]

Trask did look pretty damn good last week.
 

Also, their TE Pitts is ridiculous. He’s a bit of a WR/TE tweener but I feel like Brady could really use him well.