If you want anything from PFF..........

[MasterAwesome]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Brown: Overall(56.3 - 92nd of 127), Run Defense(53.9 - 92nd of 137), Tackling(41.2), Pass Rush(71.3 - 28th of 112), Coverage(65.2 - 6th of 30). 24 QB Pressures, 0 Sacks, 7 QB Hits, 17 QB Hurries, 2 Batted Passes, 3 Missed Tackles, 0 FF, 19 Stops, 9 Penalties

Kerr: Overall(84.9 - 11th of 127), Run Defense(76.2 - 14th of 137), Tackling(76.5), Pass Rush(81.1 - 9th of 112), Coverage(60.0). 16 QB Pressures, 3 Sacks, 6 QB Hits, 7 QB Hurries, 2 Batted Passes, 0 Missed Tackles, 11 Stops, 1 FF, 1 Penalty

 

Teddy: 25th of 39

Cam: 17th of 39

Those coverage grades tho    let's try Brown at FS over Tre.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, MasterAwesome said:

Those coverage grades tho    let's try Brown at FS over Tre.

I sent an email to Tepper about it with screenshots.

[top dawg]

I don't know why I'm asking because the stats seem to heavily favor the guys who get more opportunities, but what's the story on Bravvion Roy? 

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I don't know why I'm asking because the stats seem to heavily favor the guys who get more opportunities, but what's the story on Bravvion Roy? 

Roy: Overall(47.4 - 112th out of 127), Run Defense(37.9 - 124th of 137), Tackling(29.5), Pass Rushing(67.2 - 37th of 112), Coverage(59.0), 8 QB Pressures, 1 Sack, 4 QB Hits, 3 QB Hurries, 0 Batted Passes, 3 Missed Tackles, 6 Stops, 0 Penalties

[Basbear]

23 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Daniel Jones: Overall(80.4), Passing(75.8), Running(79.8)

Jeremy Chinn

Week 1: 46.5

Week 2: 46.0

Week 3: 48.9

Week 4: 58.2

Week 5: 63.9

Week 6: 75.1

Week 7: 39.8

Week 8: 80.3

Week 9: DNP

Week 10: 45.9

 

Jason Verrett: Overall(79.8), Run Defense(80.4), Tackling(56.5), Coverage(77.6)

Xavier Rhodes: Overall(76.8), Run Defense(61.6), Tackling(65.3), Coverage(78.4)

Jamel Dean: Overall(76.7), Run Defense(57.4), Tackling(81.8), Coverage(79.2)

[AU-panther]

17 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Brown: Overall(56.3 - 92nd of 127), Run Defense(53.9 - 92nd of 137), Tackling(41.2), Pass Rush(71.3 - 28th of 112), Coverage(65.2 - 6th of 30). 24 QB Pressures, 0 Sacks, 7 QB Hits, 17 QB Hurries, 2 Batted Passes, 3 Missed Tackles, 0 FF, 19 Stops, 9 Penalties

Kerr: Overall(84.9 - 11th of 127), Run Defense(76.2 - 14th of 137), Tackling(76.5), Pass Rush(81.1 - 9th of 112), Coverage(60.0). 16 QB Pressures, 3 Sacks, 6 QB Hits, 7 QB Hurries, 2 Batted Passes, 0 Missed Tackles, 11 Stops, 1 FF, 1 Penalty

 

Teddy: 25th of 39

Cam: 17th of 39

The fact Browns pass rush grade is higher than his run defense grade is probably a bit of a surprise to most people.  Everyone expected him to start out better against the run.  From what I've seen and read some of his run defense issues has been gap disciplined.

Also I'm pretty sure the penalties are really hurting his grade.  Giving a team a first down on a third down you had stopped, is basically like a turnover.  Those are huge plays that have big outcomes on games.

Also you stated that his game to game grades have had a huge variance, from what I read on one of PFF's recaps was that he struggles against the better O-lineman, which actually makes sense for a rookie.  Against a lesser player he can just rely on his natural abilities, but the better O-linemen you probably need better technique. 

Also before someone points out that some of the stats between Kerr and Brown seem similar or even better for Brown (24 pressures to 16 pressures) but Kerr has a better grade, you have to look at snap counts.  Brown has played a lot more snaps.

PFFs grading system starts at a baseline and moves up or down based on each snap.  That is why sometime you see a guy with only a handful of snaps in a game with a high grade.

 

 

[kungfoodude]

40 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

The fact Browns pass rush grade is higher than his run defense grade is probably a bit of a surprise to most people.  Everyone expected him to start out better against the run.  From what I've seen and read some of his run defense issues has been gap disciplined.

Also I'm pretty sure the penalties are really hurting his grade.  Giving a team a first down on a third down you had stopped, is basically like a turnover.  Those are huge plays that have big outcomes on games.

Also you stated that his game to game grades have had a huge variance, from what I read on one of PFF's recaps was that he struggles against the better O-lineman, which actually makes sense for a rookie.  Against a lesser player he can just rely on his natural abilities, but the better O-linemen you probably need better technique. 

Also before someone points out that some of the stats between Kerr and Brown seem similar or even better for Brown (24 pressures to 16 pressures) but Kerr has a better grade, you have to look at snap counts.  Brown has played a lot more snaps.

PFFs grading system starts at a baseline and moves up or down based on each snap.  That is why sometime you see a guy with only a handful of snaps in a game with a high grade.

 

 

Yeah, Brown has had some BRUTAL mental errors on some of those penalties this year. I would imagine that has a big impact, as do his 3 missed tackles at DT. I am sure that was a big hit to his rating on those plays. 

I think the biggest thing is that Kerr has been CONSISTENTLY good versus Brown who is great at times and terrible at times. But, he's a rookie. He does have a learning curve. If you look at most of our rookies they are making rookie mistakes(even Chinn). As long as we are seeing more good than bad(and we are for the most part), I am okay with that.