Panthers also interviewed Omar Khan

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Mage said:

But why does it matter though?  There is literally no negative downside to the amount of people you interview. 

It’s a ludicrous complaint. No different than scouting a lot of players. 

The fact is we could just as easily be doing our due diligence and already have the guy we want in mind. None of us no, so it seems silly for so many to be complaining so relentlessly.

Number of candidates doesn't bother me. I'm way more interested in the quality of the candidates, regardless of whether there's three of 'em or fifty of 'em.

My only grumble procedure-wise is I like when there are two rounds of Interviews, but the Panthers didn't do that with Rhule so there's no reason to believe they'd do it now.

[top dawg]

The more, the merrier! Tepper's gonna put the t in team! Nothing wrong with interviewing many, & nothing wrong with hiring team players that complement one another!

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Bama Panther said:

Don’t you know all of these disgruntled fans know more about running a billion dollar organization than does Tepper?

Not to legitimize the grumbling, but it's fair to point out that running a billion dollar business doesn't necessarily prepare you for running a pro football team.

Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder and others bear witness to that.

[Bama Panther]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Not to legitimize the grumbling, but it's fair to point out that running a billion dollar business doesn't necessarily prepare you for running a pro football team.

Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder and others bear witness to that.

Jones and Snyder are valid. However, this is Tepper’s first GM search. He has an idea of the organization he wants to build. As someone pointed out in the Tepper Sucks thread, he has made significant upgrades to the way the Panthers do business over the last 2.5 years, upgrades which have brought the Panthers’ operations in line with some of the top franchises.
 

Why is it a bad thing to exercise due diligence and be sure to get who you believe to be the right person to run the franchise as GM? It’s not. It’s just something else for you all to bitch about because Tepper didn’t immediately jump on the guy all of these fans, not NFL professionals, wanted. 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Bama Panther said:

Jones and Snyder are valid. However, this is Tepper’s first GM search. He has an idea of the organization he wants to build. As someone pointed out in the Tepper Sucks thread, he has made significant upgrades to the way the Panthers do business over the last 2.5 years, upgrades which have brought the Panthers’ operations in line with some of the top franchises.

Why is it a bad thing to exercise due diligence and be sure to get who you believe to be the right person to run the franchise as GM? It’s not. It’s just something else for you all to bitch about because Tepper didn’t immediately jump on the guy all of these fans, not NFL professionals, wanted. 

Tepper upgrading the business side of things? Yeah.

The football side? Not really, at least not yet. Jury's still out on that.

My thing is that I genuinely hope Tepper listens to Matt Rhule on this hire. Rhule had specific ideas for what he wanted in a GM. If Tepper gives him something other than what he wants, then I'm gonna worry.

[t96]

14 minutes ago, top dawg said:

The more, the merrier! Tepper's gonna put the t in team! Nothing wrong with interviewing many, & nothing wrong with hiring team players that complement one another!

Not sure if you follow hockey at all but the Carolina Hurricanes, one of the best young teams in the league with tremendous long term outlook, essentially have 3 different people in the front office who share the roles of a “typical GM.” It’s GM by committee there. Unusual but working out amazingly for them so far. I would be extremely excited to see something like that implemented here too.

[Bama Panther]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Tepper upgrading the business side of things? Yeah.

The football side? Not really, at least not yet. Jury's still out on that.

My thing is that I genuinely hope Tepper listens to Matt Rhule on this hire. Rhule had specific ideas for what he wanted in a GM. If Tepper gives him something other than what he wants, then I'm gonna worry.

On the football side, he fired Rowboat Ron and brought in Rhule, which could be a tremendous hire. He just fired Hurney, which many have rightfully been clamoring for since he was re-hired here. He upgraded practice facilities to make a better work environment for the players and coaches. He expanded the football operations on the business side of things. 

It may be cliche, but Rome wasn’t built in a day. 

[Mr. Scot]

12 minutes ago, Bama Panther said:

On the football side, he fired Rowboat Ron and brought in Rhule, which could be a tremendous hire. He just fired Hurney, which many have rightfully been clamoring for since he was re-hired here. He upgraded practice facilities to make a better work environment for the players and coaches. He expanded the football operations on the business side of things. 

It may be cliche, but Rome wasn’t built in a day. 

Agree with both firings, just question why they took so long.

Willingness to spend on the facilities? Good.

The big question right now is who we hire as GM. Get it right, we're great. Screw it up, nothing's changed.

[Bama Panther]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Agree with both firings, just question why they took so long.

Willingness to spend on the facilities? Good.

The big question right now is who we hire as GM. Get it right, we're great. Screw it up, nothing's changed.

They took “so long” because you don’t come into a situation and blow things up just to blow things up. You get a sense of the organization. You get a sense of what is in place. You get a sense of what can be added value. You do those things and make small changes over time. 
 

I’ve been in the military for over 20 years. One thing I can tell you from my experience is this: an effective leader does not go in and blow things up when he first gets there. In fact, an effective leader very rarely blows the whole thing at a singular time. He/she is taught to make decisions using the OODA loop (observe-orient-decide-act). Notice act comes last. Observing and orienting take time to do correctly. This is also a process full of feedback at every step, which allows a leader to change or tweak the course of action. 
 

I have no issue at all with the methodical manner in which Tepper has changed this organization: business side first, coaching second, and now GM. No issues whatsoever. It is the exact opposite mentality of the “give me what I want and give it to me now” mentality of many in this board, and it is a mentality that can lead to great things. 

[Mr. Scot]

15 minutes ago, Bama Panther said:

They took “so long” because you don’t come into a situation and blow things up just to blow things up. You get a sense of the organization. You get a sense of what is in place. You get a sense of what can be added value. You do those things and make small changes over time. 

I’ve been in the military for over 20 years. One thing I can tell you from my experience is this: an effective leader does not go in and blow things up when he first gets there. In fact, an effective leader very rarely blows the whole thing at a singular time. He/she is taught to make decisions using the OODA loop (observe-orient-decide-act). Notice act comes last. Observing and orienting take time to do correctly. This is also a process full of feedback at every step, which allows a leader to change or tweak the course of action. 

I have no issue at all with the methodical manner in which Tepper has changed this organization: business side first, coaching second, and now GM. No issues whatsoever. It is the exact opposite mentality of the “give me what I want and give it to me now” mentality of many in this board, and it is a mentality that can lead to great things. 

I get that it takes time, and I have no problem with that. I've heard people say they'd be happy to get a Super Bowl now even if it meant sucking for a decade afterwards. I'm not on board with that kind of thinking at all. Build for the long term, not quick flashes.

Now with that said, I don't necessarily think either Ron or Marty really needed to stay around as long as they did. None of that matters now though. what's important now is what we do moving forward.

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, t96 said:

Not sure if you follow hockey at all but the Carolina Hurricanes, one of the best young teams in the league with tremendous long term outlook, essentially have 3 different people in the front office who share the roles of a “typical GM.” It’s GM by committee there. Unusual but working out amazingly for them so far. I would be extremely excited to see something like that implemented here too.

Honestly, the only thing I really follow are the wins and the losses (and the playoffs, if the Canes get there)! But that's good to know. 

[AceBoogie]

What do you guys like about Peters so much?

[TheCasillas]

29 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

What do you guys like about Peters so much?

I've been wondering this same thing. I do see that he was apart of two SB rosters, however I don't think we can give him much credit for the Broncos roster since he was just a college scout when they won the 2015 SB. 

As for what he did in 49er land... most reports out of SF call out that he was one of the core building blocks for the SB roster. He built a pretty nasty defense, but their QB situation was and is poo.

[Mr. Scot]

26 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

I've been wondering this same thing. I do see that he was apart of two SB rosters, however I don't think we can give him much credit for the Broncos roster since he was just a college scout when they won the 2015 SB. 

As for what he did in 49er land... most reports out of SF call out that he was one of the core building blocks for the SB roster. He built a pretty nasty defense, but their QB situation was and is poo.

He was actually the Assistant Director of College Scouting in 2015 (promoted the prior year) and was elevated to director in 2016 before moving to the 49ers in 2017.

He's credited with having helped scout 27 different players that took part in Super Bowl 50, including guys like Von Miller.

I've seen lots of speculation that he's the "true GM" in San Francisco. Lynch is primarily a CEO type, not a talent evaluator.

49er fans are freaking out at the thought of losing him, including several who would like to see him named GM and Lynch either pushed out or promoted to something else.