Sam could be a steal

[Waldo]

10 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

By the end of the draft we will be contenders here, just like last year. Maybe they finally get their golden ticket but I can't bet on Sam yet. His upside is demolished by his downside. The same people hating on draft prospects for being bad at reading a defense now think Sam is going to make that leap in year 4 in the NFL? Maybe but damn if it's not funny.

I hope we take a QB in the draft and better our odds. If we go into 2021 like we did in 2020 with all the eggs in one basket I fear a repeat.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

By the end of the draft we will be contenders here, just like last year. Maybe they finally get their golden ticket but I can't bet on Sam yet. His upside is demolished by his downside. The same people hating on draft prospects for being bad at reading a defense now think Sam is going to make that leap in year 4 in the NFL? Maybe but damn if it's not funny.

I hope we take a QB in the draft and better our odds. If we go into 2021 like we did in 2020 with all the eggs in one basket I fear a repeat.

Yeah, that's the thing.....if you hate on Fields or Lance for not being ready, this dude has three seasons of NFL reps and STILL isn't ready. Honestly, not many guys get this deep in and just suddenly "figure it out." I suspect this will be a problem his entire career.

I don't know how many people read the ESPN article about the Goff/McVay saga but they mentioned in there that one thing that caused McVay to sour on Goff was that he struggled to process the reads at the rate that Sean thought he should. I think that probably happens more than we realize when some of these guys fail.

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, OldhamA said:

They've already picked up his 5th year option.

I am not sure that is official yet but everything seems to indicate we are going to.

[Waldo]

28 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, that's the thing.....if you hate on Fields or Lance for not being ready, this dude has three seasons of NFL reps and STILL isn't ready. Honestly, not many guys get this deep in and just suddenly "figure it out." I suspect this will be a problem his entire career.

I don't know how many people read the ESPN article about the Goff/McVay saga but they mentioned in there that one thing that caused McVay to sour on Goff was that he struggled to process the reads at the rate that Sean thought he should. I think that probably happens more than we realize when some of these guys fail.

Desperation makes people to do terrible things. The worst part of all of this is after last year it drags into question the QB evaluation skills if we are going all in on win now mode, unofficially until it starts working of cousrse, yet we are rellying on another guy who will likely be what he has always been. We could have waited until the Jets drafted his replacement and got a better price. Will we have an option B or just wait it works or falls apart and look surprised we didn't make a diamond out of a lump of coal.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

Desperation makes people to do terrible things. The worst part of all of this is after last year it drags into question the QB evaluation skills if we are going all in on win now mode, unofficially until it starts working of cousrse, yet we are rellying on another guy who will likely be what he has always been. We could have waited until the Jets drafted his replacement and got a better price. Will we have an option B or just wait it works or falls apart and look surprised we didn't make a diamond out of a lump of coal.

Yeah, I think we did start to get desperate after the first three options clearly weren't going to happen(Stafford, Watson, trade up). I don't blame them for not wanting to pay a mega price to move up in the draft either. That is really betting a LOT on your evaluation of a prospect. 

The thing that really makes me scratch my head is picking up that 5th year option.  

[Waldo]

11 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, I think we did start to get desperate after the first three options clearly weren't going to happen(Stafford, Watson, trade up). I don't blame them for not wanting to pay a mega price to move up in the draft either. That is really betting a LOT on your evaluation of a prospect. 

The thing that really makes me scratch my head is picking up that 5th year option.  

Sometimes doing nothing is the better path. I know it's a crazy offseason with the 49ers trading up to 3 that far before the draft but talking about Sam heavily in February raises all kinds of flags. It all just feels like rookies not doing anything in an experienced manner.

It's almost like they still have not learned. I am guessing the thought process was it was cheaper to take the 5th year vs what they would have paid him in a new contract, which is very optimistic.

[jasonluckydog]

I'm sorry but I'm on team Jake! Bring Jake and Smitty back!!!