Why Tommy Stevens will be the #3 QB

[PootieNunu]

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Thanks bro.  I like to hear opposite opinions because we all get trapped by our own perspectives--love the arguments--they really make you smarter if your mind is open.  And we all know who the turds are and we try not to step in one.

I sometimes throw stuff out that I sorta doubt myself just to get a reaction--to convince me.  The bottom of the roster is important, and some of these folks do not get that the players we keep there are indicators of what we are going to do.  So I love the bubble drama this time of year.  Some people argue well, and I still do not agree with them, but I admire their justification of their perspective.  We all cherry pick data to support our positions--the people I despise are those who simply make a statement like "he's trash" without any reasons provided.  I do not give a poo about someone's opinion, unless they can support it.  If they cant, I assume they are limited or their middle school teacher told them computer time is over.

Ok reasons. His draft grade had him as a special teamer or backup. He has no experience playing these other positions at a high level of competition. There is no reason to believe he will even be serviceable at those other positions. He had 83 carries for 381 yards his last season in college. He has good straight line speed without much wiggle. 

I will double down, this guy will never play meaningful snaps for our team unless it as a special teamer.

[PootieNunu]

2 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

 If you don't want to talk about the #3 QB, WHY DID YOU CLICK ON THE THREAD THAT CLEARLY DESCRIBES THE TOPIC AS THE #3 QB?

 

Why are you in all caps? I am just surprised to hear the guys name so much. If we did not know the saints ever wanted him how much attention would he get? 

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

But but but, Tommy Stevens , the saints wanted him so bad so we have to make use of him right?

If we never found out the saints wanted this guy how much talk would we hear about him? 

Now we are breaking our necks to keep a spot for him? 

It was actually the opposite. Sean Payton (with his smug ass face) found out Joe Brady was talking to Stevens about coming on as an undrafted rookie and drafted him in the late rounds before we could sign him. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3063074001

 

I know it ruins your poo talking about our team/fans, but you gotta get your facts right.

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Let's keep talking about Tommy Stevens. 

In the thread with his name in the title? No way!!!

[MHS831]

3 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

But but but, Tommy Stevens , the saints wanted him so bad so we have to make use of him right?

If we never found out the saints wanted this guy how much talk would we hear about him? 

Now we are breaking our necks to keep a spot for him? 

You are the only person saying that.  The Saints had a player who can do what Stevens can do, so they tried him as a pure TE and drafted him because they knew we were going to sign him--gave up a sixth rounder.  We like athletes, and we are going to use him like the saints use Hill---The Saints already had a Hill, so it would be stupid to keep him and have 2 Hills--so their plans for him were different that ours will be simply because we will use him like Hill--this is not hard. 

[PootieNunu]

Just now, MHS831 said:

You are the only person saying that.  The Saints had a player who can do what Stevens can do, so they tried him as a pure TE and drafted him because they knew we were going to sign him--gave up a sixth rounder.  We like athletes, and we are going to use him like the saints use Hill---The Saints already had a Hill, so it would be stupid to keep him and have 2 Hills--so their plans for him were different that ours will be simply because we will use him like Hill--this is not hard. 

@kungfoodude just replied to me and called him a JAG? 

I just dont get the man crush for Tommy Stevens. We have tons of young talent that actually will contribute.

[MHS831]

5 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

Ok reasons. His draft grade had him as a special teamer or backup. He has no experience playing these other positions at a high level of competition. There is no reason to believe he will even be serviceable at those other positions. He had 83 carries for 381 yards his last season in college. He has good straight line speed without much wiggle. 

I will double down, this guy will never play meaningful snaps for our team unless it as a special teamer.

Would you say the same for Hill?  I would.  Is he a special teamer?  And even if you are right--is Will Grier a better QB than Stevens?  Does Will Grier play special teams?  This has gone full circle now---

[ForJimmy]

I hate that poo gets turned into poo when I post it. It ruins my poo talking so much...

[PootieNunu]

Just now, MHS831 said:

Would you say the same for Hill?  I would.  Is he a special teamer?  And even if you are right--is Will Grier a better QB than Stevens?  Does Will Grier play special teams?  This has gone full circle now---

Ok Tommy Stevens can play special teams, I said that. As far as him being Taysom Hill 2.0 I will not hold my breath. I am not sure he will even play on the special teams, I have no idea if he is even willing to tackle. 

Taysom Hill is not some great all pro player, he is an ok gadget player that the saints love. If he was with any other team I question if he would ever see the field.

[Moo Daeng]

7 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

In the thread with his name in the title? No way!!!

In the thread where people are clicking the obvious title then whining when it's about the the team members and roster makeup.

Edited May 19, 2021 by Moo Daeng

[MHS831]

5 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

It was actually the opposite. Sean Payton (with his smug ass face) found out Joe Brady was talking to Stevens about coming on as an undrafted rookie and drafted him in the late rounds before we could sign him. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3063074001

 

I know it ruins your poo talking about our team/fans, but you gotta get your facts right.

Yes, and they felt they could convert him to a TE--maybe replace Hill and his contract, but that did not happen and they could not keep him.  We want him to be a player like Hill--not a pure TE, and both are listed as #3 QBs.  Obviously Brady loved his athleticism and Hill has value if used correctly--they just did not need 2 Hills in the big easy. We had no Hills, now we have a Hill.  At the very least he helps us prepare for New Orleans twice a year, but I sense he will have an expanding role like Hill does.  (Hill makes about $12m this year---who cares about the #3 QB?)

[MHS831]

[PootieNunu]

7 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Yes, and they felt they could convert him to a TE--maybe replace Hill and his contract, but that did not happen and they could not keep him.  We want him to be a player like Hill--not a pure TE, and both are listed as #3 QBs.  Obviously Brady loved his athleticism and Hill has value if used correctly--they just did not need 2 Hills in the big easy. We had no Hills, now we have a Hill.  At the very least he helps us prepare for New Orleans twice a year, but I sense he will have an expanding role like Hill does.  (Hill makes about $12m this year---who cares about the #3 QB?)

Do you want Taysom Hill to play for us? He is an overpaid backup QB. The guy played 43 % of the saints snaps on offense last season and he has the 8th highest cap hit on the team. 

I dont know about you, but I dont want any part of that. 

Edited May 19, 2021 by PootieNunu

[Michael G]

Steven will get a look because he's a good athlete. If he can learn what the coaches want him to learn and prove useful in some way (Probably not a true QB or TE option) he will make the team. He will be used in special packages that add a little wrinkle to the offense.