NFL fines Washington Football Team $10 million

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, Snake said:

In a fair manor?

You need a new phone.

1 hour ago, Snake said:

How about let's first just get those people interviews. That would be a great start.

It's called the Rooney Rule.

1 hour ago, Snake said:

We are in 2021 and still majority of FO staff for every team is straight white while the rest of the world has progressed.

What a laughable statement...hahaha!

For example, let's look at the the Washington Redskins:

Front Office (4 total): 50% are black men including both of the top-2 executives. (none appear to be trans)

Office Business Executives (12 total) breaks down as: women (1 black, 2 white) + black men (4) = 58%...white men (5) = 42%. (maybe 1 or 2 trans?)  

1 hour ago, Snake said:

If you want to see good hiring practices there are plenty examples out there.

Who do you recommend looking at?  Are they mentioned in your previously referenced "study" and "data" set?

Edited July 8, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[mav1234]

18 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Just clarifying.  Relax, it wasn't a trick.

Agreed.

So what's the solution...quotas?  If so, how would you suggest the quotas be achieved?  In your opinion should said quotas be applied across the organization?

Your favorite study and data source?

before we get to solutions, you seem unconvinced by the data. look, all it takes is a google search to find a TON of info on this. but here:

https://www.pnas.org/content/114/41/10870

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Since 1989, whites receive on average 36% more callbacks than African Americans, and 24% more callbacks than Latinos.

there's tons of other examples if you put in some leg work.  but if you don't know this, its because you have chosen to remain blind about the reality.

as to solutions... this article has a few: https://www.livecareer.com/resources/careers/planning/black-job-seekers-face-racial-bias-in-hiring-process

[SizzleBuzz]

15 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

before we get to solutions, you seem unconvinced by the data. look, all it takes is a google search to find a TON of info on this. but here:

https://www.pnas.org/content/114/41/10870

there's tons of other examples if you put in some leg work.  but if you don't know this, its because you have chosen to remain blind about the reality.

as to solutions... this article has a few: https://www.livecareer.com/resources/careers/planning/black-job-seekers-face-racial-bias-in-hiring-process

 

What's your proffered solution?

How do you feel about the staffing breakdown of the 16 executives who constitute the Redskins front-office operations?

 

[ForJimmy]

3 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

 

What's your proffered solution?

How do you feel about the staffing breakdown of the 16 executives who constitute the Redskins front-office operations?

 

[mav1234]

16 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

 

What's your proffered solution?

How do you feel about the staffing breakdown of the 16 executives who constitute the Redskins front-office operations?

 

lol, 2019 was the lowest score the NFL has gotten since the early 2000s for race and gender hiring.  Thankfully it got better in 2020, but we'll see if that trend holds.

as to my "preferred solution", it is going to depend on the entity in question. you can't make a blanket policy for all positions and all organizations, which is why organizations need to adopt a fundamental goal of diversity as important.

as to the WFT, I don't give a poo about single teams tbh. Look at the NFL as a whole and sports in general.  Look at the percentage of white athletes and look at what positions they hold lol

Edited July 8, 2021 by mav1234

[mav1234]

"what's your data?!?!?!" *ignores meta analysis, finds single NFL organization that is being defacto run by one of the most progressive people in the NFL In Ron Rivera, highlights it* 

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

"what's your data?!?!?!" *ignores meta analysis, finds single NFL organization that is being defacto run by one of the most progressive people in the NFL In Ron Rivera, highlights it* 

You just got sizzled! 

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

as to my "preferred solution", it is going to depend on the entity in question.

"proffered" was the intended word -- you learned something today

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

organizations need to adopt a fundamental goal of diversity as important.

Sure appears the Redskins have done a great job there. 

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

as to the WFT, I don't give a poo about single teams tbh.

This is what the OP stated:  

"majority of FO staff for every team is straight white"

I knew that to be a false statement and didn't have to look any further than the 'Skins (original subject of this thread) to find a graphic example of the opposite!

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

Look at the NFL as a whole and sports in general. 

I suspect the reality is far different than what you believe to be the case.

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

Look at the percentage of white athletes and look at what positions they hold lol

Very interesting issue here...

...if a template (quota) is going to be applied and the desire is to make NFL organizations from a staffing perspective representative of society on the whole (at least in terms of gender & race, nobody seems to care abt religion)...

...said template (quotas) should be applied top-to-bottom with all employees -- right?

 

[mav1234]

2 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

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is diversity a problem for NFL management broadly, or not?

[ladypanther]

4 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

This is what the OP stated:  

"majority of FO staff for every team is straight white"

Where did I say that?

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, ladypanther said:

5 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

This is what the OP stated:  

"majority of FO staff for every team is straight white"

Where did I say that?

You didn't, apologies for the confusion.  

I was referencing the poster I had earlier responded to within the thread. 

[SizzleBuzz]

4 hours ago, mav1234 said:

is diversity a problem for NFL management broadly, or not?

NFL teams employ lots and lots of folks...

...if a template (quota) approach is going to be used the staff the franchise should it be applied to the entirety of the employee base, or not?

[ladypanther]

1 hour ago, SizzleBuzz said:

You didn't, apologies for the confusion.  

I was referencing the poster I had earlier responded to within the thread. 

I thought OP meant the original poster in the thread.  ??

[SizzleBuzz]

43 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

I thought OP meant the original poster in the thread.  ??

I explained and apologized...

...what else do you want?