Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Heads up for Phizer vaccine takers

RenoCarolina

By RenoCarolina,
in Huddle Lounge

 Share

Recommended Posts

LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's not at all what that says. Spreads FROM vaccinated people as readily, not TO. Breakthrough cases are still uncommon and the vaccines are proving to do a great job of preventing serious illness in those breakthrough cases. All they're saying is that the individuals with breakthrough cases are just as contagious as the unvaccinated. Meanwhile, the percentage of COVID patients in hospitals that are unvaccinated are very near the 100% mark. That's a far cry from "useless".

@Ja Rhule I already broke this down for you. 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ja Rhule Grand Master

Ja Rhule

Posted
Posted
Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

You seriously think that says that the vaccines don't prevent COVID infection? You're really sticking with that? 

Someone's stubborn alright...

Go read the article again dude.  Same rate between vaccinated and unvaccinated.  “Same rate”.  I’m done here.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
LinvilleGorge Grand Master

LinvilleGorge

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Ja Rhule said:

Go read the article again dude.  Same rate between vaccinated and unvaccinated.  “Same rate”.  I’m done here.

Same rate FROM, not TO. Like I said, breakthrough cases are still fairly uncommon. But those breakthrough cases are proving to be just as contagious TO others as unvaccinated cases. I'm honestly not sure what part of this is giving you trouble. It seems really easy to understand. And you statement about the vaccines being worthless was just blatantly false seeing that virtually everyone actually hospitalized with COVID is unvaccinated. Preventing serious illness is definitely not worthless.

@Fryfan, do you want to have a go at this? I'm at a loss.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ja Rhule Grand Master

Ja Rhule

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Same rate FROM, not TO. Like I said, breakthrough cases are still fairly uncommon. But those breakthrough cases are proving to be just as contagious TO others as unvaccinated cases. I'm honestly not sure what part of this is giving you trouble. It seems really easy to understand. And you statement about the vaccines being worthless was just blatantly false seeing that virtually everyone actually hospitalized with COVID is unvaccinated. Preventing serious illness is definitely not worthless.

@Fryfan, do you want to have a go at this? I'm at a loss.

 

Ok, I think I see the point you are making.  Makes sense.  Lack of sleep this week.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
KSpan Grand Master

KSpan

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, Ja Rhule said:

Go read the article again dude.  Same rate between vaccinated and unvaccinated.  “Same rate”.  I’m done here.

You're mistaken here. It very clearly indicates that vaccinated people who contract it are as contagious, which is independent of the fact that vaccinated people contract it at a much lower rate.

For example:

Quote

Hirsh pointed to data released last week on breakthrough infections by the state Department of Public Health, which he called “an incredible testament to how effective the vaccines are.” Fewer than 4,500 people tested positive for COVID-19, among the 4.3 million in the state who have been vaccinated, a breakthrough infection rate of one-tenth of 1 percent.

“And none of those people are going to the hospital,” Hirsh said. “They’re all presenting either with cold symptoms and getting checked and finding out they’re positive, or through contact tracing or because they wanted to travel and got tested.”

“So, breakthrough infections are exceedingly rare, and vaccines are definitely keeping people out of the hospital,” said Hirsh. “But the unvaccinated in a sea of Delta variant: Those are the ones who are getting admitted.”

https://www.umassmed.edu/news/news-archives/2021/07/delta-variant-spurring-uptick-in-covid-19-cases-largely-in-unvaccinated/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • MHS831
      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By MHS831 · Posted

      I see Bryce's development this way: He improved when his supporting cast improved.  TMac and Dowdle saved his arse last year, but in fairness, most good QBs have good WRs and good RBs--and good OLs.   The 2025 OL underperformed, actually. They were above average, but they should have been elite if you consider the salary cap.   As soon as we signed Lewis and Hunt, I started thinking, "That's not sustainable.  With Ickey about to get paid a LT salary, Moton and Hunt grabbling $50m per season combined, and Lewis around $17m--that would be nearly $100m and the Center just walked.  Yikes.  What does that mean?  Rico walks, Mays walks, and we do not have a top 5 WR on a second contract.  We do not have an elite TE, and only 1 is on a modest second contract. And now Bryce will demand $50m for his incremental rise to mediocrity?   So when we sign Bryce, we will get weaker at other positions.  Hunt, Moton, maybe Ickey and Lewis, will all be casualties--that is the right move regardless (not sure yet about Ickey, but he was not elite) Bryce is one lucky, entitled camper.  No competition since being drafted, and he lost his job for a while to the aging clipboard holder.  Now we are bringing in UDFAs and busts to compete with him.  
    • 45catfan
      Bryce Young 5th year option exercised

      By 45catfan · Posted

      Probably not.  If we are taking a QB, it would be a prospect to replace Bryce and not a flyer type player.  I can't say for sure, but I doubt he would have cracked the top 3-4 QBs even if he were to play this coming season.  
    • 45catfan
      Bryce Young 5th year option exercised

      By 45catfan · Posted

      The Giants, Cardinals  and Dolphins should have moved on, but they didn't and ended up cutting their QB early into a monster second contract and had to eat a TON of dead cap money.
×
×
  • Create New...