Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

QB Controversy


CPsinceDay1
 Share

Recommended Posts

On 8/16/2021 at 6:17 PM, CPsinceDay1 said:

Okay, first if all, I apologize to the mods for another thread treading the same topic over and over. But after reading this, from a non-Carolina fan, where's there's smoke....

Now, I wanted to make it a poll, PJ or Sam... simple, who do you have more faith in as a fan, not what anyone else thoughts, like coaches, reporters, etc...but your honest opinion. This is the off season regardless how this season goes, good or bad, we in it together. Alot of people like to talk the talk, use others opinions as facts, so who's willingly to walk the walk. Let's have fun, if you on the fence cool...but there's clearly a division amongst us when it comes to how we deal with the QB position.

You have to be a fool to think not one person in that locker room thinks PJ deserves his shot ...can they openly say anything right now, no, but you can see, almost feel the energy because that's hope, inspirational.....

Its Sam...

 

If PJ Walker is our starting QB then we will be drafting a QB in 2022.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 8/16/2021 at 7:11 PM, CPsinceDay1 said:

The difference, CMC actually is good...but

Coaches and executives look at the preseason as a buffet line for these types of players — the guys who, based on their preseason performances, prove that they’re ready to help out by any means necessary.

Now that the first week of the 2021 preseason is in the books, here are the Secret Superstars who might be on their ways to unexpected roster spots… or perhaps even starting spots.

Yes, it’s the preseason, but if you superimposed this play over one of Russell Wilson’s more daring red zone throws, there wouldn’t be much difference.

Was Chuba being compared to one of the best RB's in the league?, pretty Fittin' huh...

You wrote that article, didn't you? That's what this is about.

There is no controversy. Sam is the better QB. If PJ started this year, neither of them would be on the roster in 2022.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 8/17/2021 at 12:44 PM, glenwo2 said:

What's your point?

The Jets did Sam a favor by trading him here.

I wish Wilson all the luck in the world(he'll need it on that franchise).

As far as Minshew goes, he was never going to keep a Starting gig, especially in Jacksonville where Lawrence is basically Jesus. 

I mean, Lawrence is basically Jesus anyway, and I'm an App State/Panthers fan. If the Jaguars can build correctly, by Year 3 they may be stable enough to become a perennial playoff member since they play in the AFC South and have a guy with the highest ceiling since Luck.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, PootieNunu said:

People need to realize PJ is not starting NFL QB material.

Those guys he was beating up on in the XFL are not even good enough to sit on an NFL bench or play ST.

The houston Roughnecks had a better OLINE than the panthers do.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, Tinamedina said:

The houston Roughnecks had a better OLINE than the panthers do.

How many of those guys are starting in the NFL? 

Yea....no they did not. XFL guys are the guys that are getting cut when the roster is trimmed from 90 to 53. Those NFL castoffs made up the XFL. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Tinamedina said:

The houston Roughnecks had a better OLINE than the panthers do.

The Jags were the worst team in the NFL last season, they would man handle the XFL all star team. 

Gardner Minshew is leagues better than anything the XFL had to offer. These are facts that need to be realized before spouting off at the mouth. 

Edited by PootieNunu
  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Tinamedina said:

I dont why the idea of a backup having fans bother people so much. It's not even a large fanbase. I just chock it up to a status quo way of thinking. These people think a backup should know their place or something. Very old school. 

You can be a fan of a backup and not make statements that are completely based outside of our current reality. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, PootieNunu said:

You can be a fan of a backup and not make statements that are completely based outside of our current reality. 

No one has. And no, just being a fan upsets people. The huddle is outraged and it's only a few people who are actually fans. The status quo says you cannot acknowledge backups, period.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • He’s kind of overrated to be honest. Never really felt like a true #1 or elevated his play to become a guy the defense really has to worry about. 
    • I'm going to be real, the reason that vote ended up so lop-sided by the end was directly due to my programming. So there's nothing tongue in cheek about it. Also I left PFF after the Collinsworth acquisition (didn't want to move to Cincy) but have stayed involved in analytics via backdoor channels, but I can absolutely say that the experience was eye-opening, not because those guys are unquestionable football savants and that I became one by proxy, but because the amount of information that becomes available outside of what the typical fan has access to is revelatory and also really drives home how much context is still being missed even with all of that information. You don't discover that you know everything, you discover how much you still can't know no matter how hard you try, hence my point about the NFL not being able to figure out what makes a QB good. There's a lot of AI work going into that now and even that only seems to further confuse things vs. actually enlighten the problem. In the professional realm teams don't really talk about quarterbacks as A strictly being better than B, but how A can potentially perform better than B given a specific context of C. Of course those contexts may be wider for A than B, but there's also contexts where B can outshine A, even with lesser talent surrounding them. So what good teams strive to do is ultimately define a process of how they want their entire team to operate under schematically, find players that fit that scheme, and hopefully find a guy whose skillset will be maximized running that scheme with those players. Where bad teams fall of the wagon is constantly shifting those schemes and chasing bad fits or fads vs. sticking with a core identity and developing it.
    • there is a 100 mile long list of NFL players and coaches going to bat and defending horrible play from teammates.   
×
×
  • Create New...