NFCS Pass Protection Stats Thru 3 games

[SBBlue]

 

9 hours ago, BrianS said:

We're actually top 10 in pocket time.

Looking at it under this lens, I'm not sure pocket time is a very good measurement for an OLine.  Looking at that list, there is a mix of great and crap OLines in that top 10.  While our pocket time numbers look good, I'm not sure it's really telling us anything.

What doesn't look good is hurries, pressures and hits.  Basically, what the stats seem to be saying - to me at least - is that Sam is doing a good job of understanding his line isn't as strong as it should be.  He knows, and he's getting rid of the ball quickly.

We're also seeing a pretty high blitz rate, which certainly impacts pocket time, pressures, hurries, etc.  I think that makes sense.  You have a questionable OLine and a QB who until recently was known to make poor decisions under duress.  Sam just needs to keep making good decisions and beating the blitz.

I think a better set of stats to look at for OLine is rushing.  For example:

That is sorted by Yards before Contact, per attempt.  We are second from bottom.  When you flip that sort the other direction, you see something that looks a lot more like what you'd expect.

Imagine what CMC would look like if he were 3 yards downfield before he was touched.

Don't let a single stat fool you into thinking our OLine is "ok" / "average".  

 

There's some good points here.     

 Both in stats and  watching, our line performs better in Pass Pro than in run blocking.  We  say we scheme around it in pass pro and I believe there's an element of truth to that.

But is scheme part of the problem with our run blocking?

The year before Joe Brady came, 2019, our YBC/Att of 3.1, was 3rd BEST in the league.  That was the year the line performed so bad in pass pro, we went through 3 Qbs and led the league with 58 sacks!

Joe brady was not an OC at LSU, he was a passing game coordinator and wide receivers coach.
He was at the Saints in 2018.  In 2018 the Saints YBC/Att was 2.0 yards, 28th in the league.  

Could it be that we suck in run blocking, in part because our run scheme sucks?
 

Edited October 1, 2021 by SBBlue

[AU-panther]

19 hours ago, SBBlue said:

2021 NFL Advanced Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

	Net Passing Yards	PktTime	Sacks	Hits	Hurries
League Average	735	2.35	7	10	11
Carolina Panthers	854	2.4	6	11	13
New Orleans Saints	341	2.5	7	12	6
Atlanta Falcons	656	2.3	7	15	11
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	1049	2.3	6	5	9

You keep trying to prove that our O-line isn't bad but you are using limited stats to do so.  You need to equate those stats for number of drop backs.  TB has 9 hurries, we have 13 but they have over 30% more pass attempts.

Instead of looking at number of pressures lets look at percentage of drops backs where the QB is pressured.

2021 NFL Advanced Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Saints are 29th in the league, we are 24th, Atlanta is 22nd, and TB is 2nd.

Basically Carolina, Atlanta, and New Orleans are all doing a bad job and all three are below average, but you keep trying to convince yourself that we are somewhere close to average this year but we aren't.  

 

 

[SBBlue]

On 9/30/2021 at 10:22 PM, SBBlue said:

2021 NFL Advanced Stats | Pro-Football-Reference.com

	Net Passing Yards	PktTime	Sacks	Hits	Hurries
League Average	735	2.35	7	10	11
Carolina Panthers	854	2.4	6	11	13
New Orleans Saints	341	2.5	7	12	6
Atlanta Falcons	656	2.3	7	15	11
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	1049	2.3	6	5	9

@Catsfan69 Our team has had a total of 2 more pressures than the league average.  The Falcons have had  more pressures than we have, for fewer yards.  I'm not saying we have a good line.  I'm saying we don't have the worst and that PFF is wrong.  Just as Paradis is not a better center than Brian Burns is an edge.

Edited October 2, 2021 by SBBlue