Deangelo Williams and Gary Barnidge on Cam and yesterday's game

[Catsfan69]

7 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Those two have been eating a lot of lemons. Both sour as heck.

Good thing is their lips will already be puckered to kiss Cams ars after this season.

Do you think he's a great passer?

Outside of one single season isn't he like 18 tds and 13ints a year on average without looking it up?

[Catsfan69]

9 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Those two have been eating a lot of lemons. Both sour as heck.

Good thing is their lips will already be puckered to kiss Cams ars after this season.

I want to win. I am being objective about Cam.

If he can pull a Trent Dilfer (which you guys say is impossible in the "Modern NFL) I'll give him tons of credit.

[CRA]

26 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

But he's always been average to below average as a passer.

Passing the ball is the mark of a QB.

You need a passer to win a championship. 

well, again, running between the tackles was the mark of a RB.  Stopping the run was the mark of a LB.  TEs were largely blockers.  But players evolve.  The game evolves. 

Cam might of been an average passer.   But he was also a uniquely dominant runner.  One that is unique in NFL history.   A dominant game changer and again, remains the most dominent short yardage threat/option in NFL history.   

He was never an average player.  

[rippadonn]

7 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

Do you think he's a great passer?

Outside of one single season isn't he like 18 tds and 13ints a year on average without looking it up?

Better passer than Sam Darnold and TeddyB. Better player overall by miles. Clutch as heck! Yes. Yes. Yes

[rippadonn]

Let Cam be Cam. Run Air Coryell and you'll see that arm.

[Catsfan69]

9 minutes ago, CRA said:

well, again, running between the tackles was the mark of a RB.  Stopping the run was the mark of a LB.  TEs were largely blockers.  But players evolve.  The game evolves. 

Cam might of been an average passer.   But he was also a uniquely dominant runner.  One that is unique in NFL history.   A dominant game changer and again, remains the most dominent short yardage threat/option in NFL history.   

He was never an average player.  

Noon. Not in NFL history.

I'm not putting him ahead of.

 Larry  Csonka

Earl Campbell 

Emmitt Smith

Jerome Bettis

Walter Payton.

I could probably pick 15 more guys ahead of him

[Catsfan69]

12 minutes ago, CRA said:

well, again, running between the tackles was the mark of a RB.  Stopping the run was the mark of a LB.  TEs were largely blockers.  But players evolve.  The game evolves. 

Cam might of been an average passer.   But he was also a uniquely dominant runner.  One that is unique in NFL history.   A dominant game changer and again, remains the most dominent short yardage threat/option in NFL history.   

He was never an average player.  

Great football player.

Good QB not elite good.

[Catsfan69]

Damn unfortunately I have to get back on the road. Heading back to Raleigh from Pittsburgh. 

[rippadonn]

Just now, Catsfan69 said:

Great football player.

Good QB not elite good.

He's not the only great football player on this football team. He solves a problem FOR US that some teams don't have. No star had us #1 on their list. Only #1.

Thank God somebody loves us too. Embrace that.

[rayzor]

40 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

But he's always been average to below average as a passer.

Passing the ball is the mark of a QB.

You need a passer to win a championship. 

getting your team in position to score TDs and ensuring they do one way or another. You need a guy that can make sure that happens. That's Cam.

You need to score points to win a championship. Cam scores points.

[rayzor]

4 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

Great football player.

Good QB not elite good.

HoF good. 

[rippadonn]

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

HoF good. 

I was thinking that this morning. Having gone to NE and come back is as big market as you can get. His play will determine it but he's a lock I think. Just like Pep.

[Mistuh Jones]

doucheangelo can cease to exist. i bet panthers wouldnt come to that funeral either

[CRA]

19 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

Great football player.

Good QB not elite good.

You simply choose to ignore and deem irrelvent everything about Cam that made him elite and special...to diminsh him. 

Throw all his passing TDs out the window for a minute and deem them void.  One player has found the endzone more than Cam in Carolina history without his passing TDs.  1.  And Cam likely jumps him this year.   Cam is a monster.   To dismiss all that he brings for your arguement, that you have to play like Tom Brady or it doesn't count,  is utterly silly.