Meanwhile in bankruptcy court...

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, top dawg said:

That's fine, if you want to look at it that way. As you know, not everyone is the same, nor are the circumstances (like the fact that though playing in basically a trash division, the Bill's finally start really turning it around until Brady left). We've had some pretty good QBs and teams in general to deal with on a yearly basis). 

We have an owner who has owned the team barely four years who decided to hire his guy, from the NCAA, who has only been here two seasons (one of which was tainted by Covid-19). I don't think it's unreasonable to give the coach and the owner another season or so to prove themselves, particularly if it looks like the team has at least improved on paper. It's not unreasonable at all. And, sure, as time goes on, and more of a track record is laid bare, then it will be more appropriate to develop more definitive opinions and even draw conclusions. I don't know what else to tell you.

We're not playing in a trash division?

Outside of Tampa, it's pretty bad.

And unfortunately, we're one of the reasons for that.

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, jayboogieman said:

Shouldn't Tepper have done some research on the Panthers and formed at least a tentative plan for the team before spending $2 billion on it?

Who's to say that he didn't?

You have to know that there's only so much you can know before you actually take control of something that isn't yours, especially something with as many dynamics as an NFL franchise. 

Plans change and evolve. Everyone must learn and adapt on the fly at times. If you look critically, you can see that realization in the Panthers franchise over the last couple of years.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

Who's to say that he didn't?

You have to know that there's only so much you can know before you actually take control of something that isn't yours, especially something with as many dynamics as an NFL franchise. 

Plans change and evolve. Everyone must learn and adapt on the fly at times. If you look critically, you can see that realization in the Panthers franchise over the last couple of years.

If the choice is between going in without prior research or doing research ahead of time yet still choosing to keep the franchise in the hands of Marty Hurney for three seasons, I think I'd rather hear Tepper say he went in blind.

 

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

We're not playing in a trash division?

Outside of Tampa, it's pretty bad.

And unfortunately, we're one of the reasons for that.

Not really, but even if you want to say that, it's only been that way for the last couple of seasons. Neither Brady, Brees or Ryan were jokes, or their organizations, really. Maybe Atlanta...but that's it (and of course us, but the reality met the expectations last season). Once Cam went down, we were done. Now, who knows? But we have talent, and possibly a franchise QB, so that's something. 

[top dawg]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

If the choice is between going in without prior research or doing research ahead of time yet still choosing to keep the franchise in the hands of Marty Hurney for three seasons, I think I'd rather hear Tepper say he went in blind.

 

Doesn't matter. Hurney is gone.

[mc52beast]

I’m beginning to think we would’ve been better off with Snoop Dog as the owner.