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Once And For All (Batted Passes)

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1 hour ago, lightsout said:

Ok that's dumb. Easy way to get personal fouls too.

The issue is scheme and Baker. That's all. Can we be more aggressive in pass pro to keep the DL more engaged and therefore limiting the hands up? Sure. But we're going for all these quick hitters, DL can time that. Baker is short, easier to bat. So what does Baker try? Extend his throwing motion high to avoid batted balls. What does that cause? Him to sail balls we've seen him hit previously.

 

Baker is getting into his own head and until we start taking more deep shots than 3 times a game, it's going to be a problem.

Lol it's not a personal foul.

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On 10/5/2022 at 7:07 PM, Cdparr7 said:

Okay this is like 1970s high school veer option logic.

Pass Protection in the NFL is kick slide typically. Which is Outside foot- out, inside foot-in to create a pocket. Guy goes inside, you kick slide up, guy goes outside kick slide out. Hands stay close to the breast plate and you punch until he engages.

Now depending on your splits, you may have a more aggressive pass block, especially on RPO or play action. Your feet remain square and you attack similar to as you would on a zone run without going up field and firing on the backer.
 

“cut blocking” is frowned upon in the NFL, so is hitting somebody in the balls. 
 

Baker’s issue is his height and release. He has shorter arms, and throws side armed fairly often. Our pass protection is better now, so rushers will mirror Baker and knock down the pass. 
 

QBs are coached to have a 6x6” release to what is called “zero” this is a 45 degree angle above an outside the shoulder to assist with accuracy and a higher release. Baker’s short arms, shorter height, and throwing motion is to blame. His elbow slot placement is off.

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Baker isn’t the shortest qb in the league and there’s plenty of guys around his height that are successful. I’ll blame his release but the height thing is getting dumb as hell. We just played a qb that is 5’9 and probably has less batted balls.  Olinmen don’t grow in height from college. 

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