Sooo...what would our record be if Moore started after week 1?

[Zod]

It's not Moore's fault. We're saddled with Davidson as the OC. He has a career average of 15 points when Jake isn't the starter, and he showed why again today.

Bring out the excuses, I know you're dying to.

Look up Jake's stats (with Deangelo Williams) against that horrible Tampa team you are talking about. Hint: Moore did much better

Moore does not look like a good QB. He looks like an average QB, which at the moment is a big upgrade.

[Squirrel]

It's not Moore's fault. We're saddled with Davidson as the OC. He has a career average of 15 points when Jake isn't the starter, going back to the Browns. He showed why again today.

Bring out the excuses, I know you're dying to.

Last years stats would disagree.

[Cyberjag]

Oh, I know Delhomme has sucked this year. I think the playcalling has exacerbated that though, and it will destroy Moore if given time.

I've never seen an offensive coordinator who's done a worse job with what he's been given. I have no idea why you're in his jock so much, I just don't see it.

[Cyberjag]

Last years stats would disagree.

Last year Jake still had touch on his long balls. Davidson's never done a thing without Jake, Jake's done tons without Davidson.

Davidson IS the weak link. May be worse than Crossman, he's that bad.

[God]

Davidson called one hell of a game today!

Matt Moore > Jake

[Zod]

name a coordinator in the league that does better without his starting QB. (besides Jeff Davidson today )

[E CaT PanTHer]

Matt Moore doesn't look any different than Jake to me out there. He looks like Jake when Jake's playing in safe mode. That deep ball to Smitty...I thought he was going to hit him in stride, but it was as off as one of Jake's passes. Smitty just adjusted on it.

Smitty was wide open and there was a reason he was wide open. Moore didn't stare down Smitty the entire route. When Delhomme decides to throw it to Smitty, Smitty is usually double or even triple covered b/c he can't look off the safety to save his life.

[Cyberjag]

Dan Henning.

That was easy, I didn't even have to think about it.

[KillerKat]

Last year Jake still had touch on his long balls. Davidson's never done a thing without Jake, Jake's done tons without Davidson.

FOX IS the weak link. May be worse than Crossman, he's that bad.

Correction since you don't realise this and like to put more of the blame on Davidson and didn't put any on Henning when there is very little difference.

[Zod]

Dan Henning.

That was easy, I didn't even have to think about it.

You are so close to getting it!

Now, what do Henning and Davidson have in common in regards to their time here in Carolina...(hint: draw play on 3rd and 15)

[bLACKpANTHER]

+4 = Dallas, Buffalo, Miami & NY Jets

5-7 = 9-3

[mav1234]

In Fox's defense, the Dolphins have run draw plays in 3rd and long with Henning as coordinator, so it's not just Fox that does it. But Henning also has some creativity still left in him... and Henne is starting to really pick it up.

[Cyberjag]

You are so close to getting it!

Now, what do Henning and Davidson have in common in regards to their time here in Carolina...(hint: draw play on 3rd and 15)

So your position is that Davidson is a very good OC, Moore is a decent QB, and they both would be wildly successful together if Fox wasn't holding them back.

I respectfully disagree.

Edit: If Fox is gone after this season, I sincerely hope to find that you are correct in your assessment. I'm not married to the guy, and if the next one does better I'll be thrilled. I just remember that the last eight years have been loads better than the previous eight.

[Zod]

All I know is no OC in the league would have any luck with Delhomme as his QB.