Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Trade Deadline Rules - ESPN Content

Rocky Davis

By Rocky Davis,
in Carolina Hurricanes

 Share

Recommended Posts

Rocky Davis Veteran

Rocky Davis

Posted
Posted

So we have already talked about the Canes not doing anything to better our Cup contending team and an NHL "source" called Waddle and the Canes out:

Stick to the plan

This is rule No. 1 according to the executives with whom we spoke. Burke, a Stanley Cup-winning GM, told me the three questions a team must ask itself before every deadline.
"What you want to accomplish at the deadline is a direct function of how close or how far away you are," he said. "So first question is how close are you? That'll determine how active you are."
Question No. 2: How specific are your needs? "If you need a third-line center, that's different than if you need a top-six forward," Burke said, which brings us to question No. 3: What do you have to offer to another club in order to fill those specific needs?
"What's the trade capital? What do you have to give? What picks have you already traded away?" he said. "Do you have good young players? Do you have other assets in the AHL?"
Mike Futa was an assistant general manager who helped build Stanley Cup champions with the Los Angeles Kings. He said one of the biggest mistakes teams make at the deadline is not knowing when to turn that trade capital into something tangible.
"These guys kill me: The rankings tell you that you have the best prospects in the world and then they just keep getting all these prospects," said Futa, now an analyst with Sportsnet. "At what point do you look at your nuggets and say, 'Hey, they are good. But we're not winning anything."
One NHL source pointed to the Carolina Hurricanes as a team like that. Now, the Hurricanes win plenty ... but haven't won a championship round since 2006. They had the sixth best prospect pool for 2022-23 and the second-best pool for 2021-22, according to The Athletic. When do they aggressively deal some of those futures for the present?
"You can say Player X is going to be a stud five years from now," Futa said. "But if he can get you a piece for your core, you do it."
So, yeah time to put up or shut up.......
 
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
USDepartmentOfSavagery Grand Master

USDepartmentOfSavagery

Posted
Posted (edited)

Don clearly values the future a little disproportionately imo. I understand there is influence from ownership but there’s a small window of opportunity here to position yourselves for a legitimate cup run. Our PP is going to falter even more in the playoffs. We know this. We are going to deal with injuries and guys getting bullied in ge playoffs. We know this. Every single current playoff team that’s a non wildcard in the East got better and some may have surpassed us. What message are you sending to the team as they look around and see their competition getting better for peanuts. They’re not even trading rostered players for these upgrades.

Edited by USDepartmentOfSavagery
  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Rocky Davis Veteran

Rocky Davis

Posted
  • Author
Posted
18 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

The guy featured in this (Michael Futa) used to work for the Canes… safe to say that there was some philosophical differences in how to get a Cup.

He also worked for the Kings when they won 2 Stanley Cups. 

I agree with what the NHL source said, if you feel like you have a chance to win a Cup you have to say goodbye to some prospects that won't be helping you in the next 2-3 years. 

 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
MillionDollarCam Grand Master

MillionDollarCam

Posted
Posted
13 minutes ago, Rocky Davis said:

He also worked for the Kings when they won 2 Stanley Cups. 

I agree with what the NHL source said, if you feel like you have a chance to win a Cup you have to say goodbye to some prospects that won't be helping you in the next 2-3 years. 

 

Hell some of the prospects we’ve hung on to may never help us… I was saying earlier that I’d rather give guys like Drury, Rees, and Suzuki a chance to make the roster as fourth line players going forward rather than bringing in older guys like Stepan and Stastny.

In a perfect world those players develop but even if they don’t (like Zetterlund from NJ), you can still flip them in trades because they are young enough where another team might take a chance on them.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Rocky Davis Veteran

Rocky Davis

Posted
  • Author
Posted
1 minute ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Hell some of the prospects we’ve hung on to may never help us… I was saying earlier that I’d rather give guys like Drury, Rees, and Suzuki a chance to make the roster as fourth line players going forward rather than bringing in older guys like Stepan and Stastny.

In a perfect world those players develop but even if they don’t (like Zetterlund from NJ), you can still flip them in trades because they are young enough where another team might take a chance on them.

Agreed!  I am unsure what we are doing at the moment.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Bear Hands
      Bryce's Achilles Heel Is Not What You Think It Is

      By Bear Hands · Posted

      Strongly disagree with the premise here. Without getting too into it, the biggest gripe for many has always been his footwork and pocket presence.  Shallow drops, happy feet, bad awareness - his overall technique is highly unconventional and not beneficial to his size/frame.  His upper body gets mad out of sync with his lower, drops back parallel to the LOS, erratic behavior. When you take that to the NFL level, you get swallowed up. And he got shellshocked and started bailing way too soon on plays. Unnecessary throwaways when he should step UP into the pocket and hit.   He got away with it in school because sooo much of his work was out of structure or quick hits to Jamo.  He was able to not bail early and stick in the pocket this last game. He also was dropping deeper than he usually does to create sight lanes. He can’t really outrun DLs so he needs to create that space via drop to survey properly. When he does these bs skip hops in the gun, he barely drops and is flooded. He needs to stay active with his feet but learn to step into the pocket more.  His average arm when he’s not doing this right turns Pennington esque.
    • CPF4LIFE
      Adam Thielen on Young

      By CPF4LIFE · Posted

      Theilen is about to retire. I dont care about him sticking around. Lets say you did and he retires at the end of the year. Now that connection is gone next year and it's just another excuse for regression that was just held off. 
    • cranky
      Adam Thielen on Young

      By cranky · Posted

      Short term is the key point. Those first two games without him where pretty bad. They still aren't back to where they were offensively but they are getting better. Hopefully Tet continues to improve and Coker eventually returns - and stays healthy.
×
×
  • Create New...