Tom Pelissero compares quarterbacks

[stratocatter]

On 4/21/2023 at 9:23 PM, JawnyBlaze said:

Cam didn’t have accuracy issues, he maybe overthrew a tiny bit more than average, but he was excellent at deep balls, good at placement and overall accuracy. He just rarely had any receivers and a terrible OC that couldn’t scheme a receiver open if it was 11 on 7 for most of his career. 

Receivers def influence a QB’s stats. Stats aren’t really necessary to evaluate a guy if you watch the guy enough. Most people here watched a ton of Cam.

To me Cam sort of was what he was. Top notch capability, arm strength, threw a pretty ball, all that. Not to mention his other beyond prototypical physical attributes.  
But claims that he lacked touch on shorter throws, are true. He struggled with that.  If everyone watched him, why is it even a question? He was sort of inconsistent, trying to take something off just never looked pretty. 

[JawnyBlaze]

16 minutes ago, stratocatter said:

Receivers def influence a QB’s stats. Stats aren’t really necessary to evaluate a guy if you watch the guy enough. Most people here watched a ton of Cam.

To me Cam sort of was what he was. Top notch capability, arm strength, threw a pretty ball, all that. Not to mention his other beyond prototypical physical attributes.  
But claims that he lacked touch on shorter throws, are true. He struggled with that.  If everyone watched him, why is it even a question? He was sort of inconsistent, trying to take something off just never looked pretty. 

Sure he lacked touch, I didn’t say anything about that

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Sure he lacked touch, I didn’t say anything about that

At least early on, it felt like every pass he threw was shot out of a cannon. That doesn't necessarily make for a catchable ball, especially on certain routes.

(Favre had the same issue, as I recall)

Turner seemed to help with that, but I'd say it was his default throwing style.

Edited April 23, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[JawnyBlaze]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

At least early on, it felt like every pass he threw was shot out of a cannon. That doesn't necessarily make for a catchable ball, especially on certain routes.

(Favre had the same issue, as I recall)

Turner seemed to help with that, but I'd say it was his default throwing style.

Yea, didn’t know his own strength heh. That’s certainly a legit criticism of his throwing ability. Accuracy isn’t a legit criticism though. 

[AceBoogie]

On 4/22/2023 at 4:39 AM, Smithers said:

How many pro bowl WRs did Tom Brady have in NE?

He played with arguably the best WR and TE of all time and had maybe the best HC of all time….way to go to the extreme sample and still be wrong 

[Mr. Scot]

41 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Yea, didn’t know his own strength heh. That’s certainly a legit criticism of his throwing ability. Accuracy isn’t a legit criticism though. 

I've compared Newton's accuracy to Brett Favre numerous times, and still do. Both were more "general vicinity" accurate than pinpoint accurate like Brady or Brees.

Likewise, both were capable of throwing a damn near laser accurate pass, then following it up with a pass that made you wonder if they needed to get their eyes checked