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[Jangler]

See post #5 of this thread.

Yeah, Thanks, I read it. I was just pointing out reading comprehension or the lack of it...

[AceMan]

So if that is true then it brings up the old joke..."This milk has gone bad...*puts back in fridge*....maybe it will be better tommorrow."

Somebody really needs to have a truthful heart to heart with Jake...

:iagree: :rofl:

[House]

Pretty much we owe Jake 13 mil no matter what we do. His agent knew he had the team over a barrel and got a sweet heart of a deal for Jake.

[rayzor]

In most cases, if a player retires, the remaining signing bonus that has not been included in salary “accelerates” and is included in that year’s team salary. Thus, the team will take an immediate salary cap hit of the remaining signing bonus.

http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/faq.asp

ugh...

[panthers55]

Given there will be no cap in 2010 and we already paid him much of the guaranteed money, there won't be much of a consequence to cutting Jake or if he retires. All we will do is take any hit left over in 2010 when there is no cap and go forward. He won't mind because he gets paid either way and we don't have a cap hit in 2011 or 2012.

We only keep him if we want to use him as a backup or starter in the future and figure we already have paid him. Still we won't likely keep him past 2010 give the roster bonuses due in future years.

[Khyber53]

If Jake were to retire, it would be a case of him surrendering the contract and any guaranteed money would be null and void. The team also would not be on the hook for hits against the salary cap. (That "retirement" portion of the contract was always the unspoken part of the Brett Favre saga).

However, it would be stupid for Carolina to let him walk. Right now, he would be just the person the team needs while they are rebuilding the QB position to be the QB2. Of course, that is barring a late season rennaisance. There is still the chance that while he is sitting on the bench, something will require the team to send him into the game and somehow he finds "it" again.

Stranger things have happened.

Most likely what we will see happen in the offseason is this: Jake will renegotiate his contract yet again to give some freedom to the team's payroll. He will sign up for veteran second-stringer money (better than McCown or Feeley got as journeyman backups) with escalator clauses if he has to come back in as a starter and if he hits wins/TD levels.

With the scarcity of even passable back-ups in the league (that crop of second stringers across the league sucks at an almost historic level), Delhomme would be important to the team. He also has real game experience and knowledge of the playbook, respect of his teammates and a never give up attitude that a new QB needs to have teaching him.

And I know the obvious statement, but mark my words. Fox will be back next year.

[Sloth]

If Jake were to retire, it would be a case of him surrendering the contract and any guaranteed money would be null and void. The team also would not be on the hook for hits against the salary cap. (That "retirement" portion of the contract was always the unspoken part of the Brett Favre saga).

However, it would be stupid for Carolina to let him walk. Right now, he would be just the person the team needs while they are rebuilding the QB position to be the QB2. Of course, that is barring a late season rennaisance. There is still the chance that while he is sitting on the bench, something will require the team to send him into the game and somehow he finds "it" again.

Stranger things have happened.

Most likely what we will see happen in the offseason is this: Jake will renegotiate his contract yet again to give some freedom to the team's payroll. He will sign up for veteran second-stringer money (better than McCown or Feeley got as journeyman backups) with escalator clauses if he has to come back in as a starter and if he hits wins/TD levels.

With the scarcity of even passable back-ups in the league (that crop of second stringers across the league sucks at an almost historic level), Delhomme would be important to the team. He also has real game experience and knowledge of the playbook, respect of his teammates and a never give up attitude that a new QB needs to have teaching him.

And I know the obvious statement, but mark my words. Fox will be back next year.

If Fox is back next year, why would Delhomme restructure when he'll be the starter going into next season?

[House]

I'm pretty sure that Delhomme could not restructure for less money. He could restructure by extending his contract and not uping the payout which would give us more breathing room but guaranteed money is exactly what it means.

Also I doubt even if he wanted to that the players unioun would readily allow him to because it is bad business to have players taking less than what they got the previous year just because they do not perform. Almost guaranteed that they cut Jake, Hurney knew the uncapped year would give him an out if Jake didn't pan out.