How many times are you going to let John Fox fool you?

[Sword]

all this negative talk of Fox falls on deaf ears..unless you speak directly with Richardson..

[BIGH2001]

How about a set of back-to-back winning seasons? John Fox is going to tie the record for most years coached without a set of back-to-back winning seasons in league history. If the Falcons win next week, the Panthers will be the only franchise in the league without back-to-back winning seasons along with the Texans.

Well you can't really blame him for having a losing season in 2002, 2004 or 2007. 02' he inherited a 1-15 team. '04 the whole team was injured, '07 he had Carr and Testaverde.

Two seasons 06 and this year were somewhat disappointing. 06 I think was worse than 09 because the team started 4-2 and tanked completely at the end, getting embarassed a few times in the process. This year was bad because of the obvious unncessary loyalty to Delhomme. Still, to see them play the last two weeks it is clear that he has not lost this team. And there is a ton of talent as long as he can learn from his mistakes and never let Delhomme play again. Fox is an upper echelon coach and deserves next year to get the ship righted. If he can't do it next year, I agree it's time for a change. But I bet we come back strong.

[davos]

If this "cycle" you refer to is consistent, next year we should have a winning record. With this said, Fox's contract is up at the end of next season and we will have a Andy Reid situation (we basically already do). So I'm going to agree to disagree about this cycle notion.

I can see Hurney getting fired and us keeping Fox until his contract is up.

[NC87]

Fox deserves an extension, it's plain and simple. The Panthers had NOTHING to play for and we just beat two playoff-caliber teams. Matt Moore should be the starter next year and Delhomme should stay as the backup QB.

[Kurb]

Took Atlanta over 40 years to have back to backs, we have comparable playoff wins and equal superbowl appearances in a lot less time.

[Sam Mills Fan]

God bless John Fox. All it takes for him to look great to a lot of fans is to have 3 winning seasons in 8 years. DAT CONSISTENCY!!

[Sam Mills Fan]

Took Atlanta over 40 years to have back to backs, we have comparable playoff wins and equal superbowl appearances in a lot less time.

So? A slew of franchises have had back-to-back winning seasons just since Fox was hired here. Let's try to have a better standard than a historically sad franchise like the Falcons please.

[rico6]

Browsing around the board during the game, I'm seeing the same predictable posts about how suddenly Fox isn't that bad, he should return, this is a playoff team, etc.

Haven't we gone through this boring cycle enough times for you all to get it? Here is how every two seasons will always go with John Fox as Head Coach:

- Have a nice regular season and make the playoffs only to not win the Super Bowl.

followed by

- Have an extremely disappointing season only to start playing well when there is no longer anything to play for. Rattle off three or four wins in December to make the season look better than it really was.

What you all need to think about and what Jerry Richardson needs to think about is: Is this endless cycle justifiable to keep Fox around indefinitely?

If having an exciting season every other year (with no Super Bowl title to go with it) followed by a disappointing season where we finish strong in garbage time to go 7-9 or 8-8 is good enough for you, then you should want Fox to stay here.

If it's not good enough for you and your goal is an actual consistent, Super Bowl-winning team, John Fox will NEVER be the guy for the job.

We've seen it time after time after time. When the team is favored in a big game, they never ever get it done. When they're huge underdogs to good teams in meaningless games, there is nobody better at playing spoiler.

Is that good enough for you? Mediocrity? Being consistently inconsistent?

It's not good enough for me and it shouldn't be good enough for you or for Jerry Richardson either.

FIRE FOX

This.

If your happy with Fox as an HC your happy with being mediocre.. Point Blank

It's not Jake's fault he was still starting when he clearly couldn't play anymore, Fox sticking with Jake means he was intent on this team not progressing.

Then weeks later when he is benched and Matt plays better, Fox still says he has confidence in Jake..

Fox needs to fuging go, or shake up his philosophy and staff.

[AceMan]

Fox deserves an extension, it's plain and simple. The Panthers had NOTHING to play for and we just beat two playoff-caliber teams. Matt Moore should be the starter next year and Delhomme should stay as the backup QB.

That is fairy tale thinking. Paying a back-up 13 mil with no future with the team is absurd. Especially with him being the scapegoat of this season and his history with Fox, who looks like he will prolly stay thanks to Moore saving his ass. Jake is as good as gone!

Fox gets too many breaks...his stay is iffy. But Delhomme will definitely be gone.

[capt. clay]

Have you all noticed how it always the same Fox haters crying, bitching and whining .....It would"nt matter if we won a superbowl, These people crack me up......I say sign Fox to another contract, let Jake sit, get a QB, and keep on POUNDING!!!!

[beastson]

NO WAY IN HELL, I can go through another FULL SEASON with Fox as HC. His contract expires, LET HIM GO

Before after next year, we'll still be sitting here talking about will Fox come back?

[King Taharqa]

This.

If your happy with Fox as an HC your happy with being mediocre.. Point Blank

It's not Jake's fault he was still starting when he clearly couldn't play anymore, Fox sticking with Jake means he was intent on this team not progressing.

Then weeks later when he is benched and Matt plays better, Fox still says he has confidence in Jake..

Fox needs to f*cking go, or shake up his philosophy and staff.

Good post. John Fox is an underachiever, I WANT HIM GONE EVEN MORE NOW. It took us getting knocked out of the playoffs for him to motivate this team to play its best football. But when the bright lights and expectations are on us, he folds up like a lawnchair EVERY TIME. He's always gonna do JUST ENOUGH to save his job. And thats what he's done in these last 3 games. Looks like its working too.

[Kurb]

So? A slew of franchises have had back-to-back winning seasons just since Fox was hired here. Let's try to have a better standard than a historically sad franchise like the Falcons please.

you brought it up

[Sandy Claws]

If he had pulled Jake 11 weeks ago we would be in the Playoffs. .

You don't know that any ore than you know know that Jake could not possibly have performed better over the last 4 games. I see a lot of changes in the play calling. If Jake had been in there, Stewart would have had his 100 by half time then we would have been throwing all second half and ended up letting them come back.