Probowl selection Peppers/ Williams in Beason out

[Raskle]

Clinton Portis, 2008-2009 Redskins

I'm confused.. are you supporting my point that, although there are rare occurrences of it happening, most sub .500 teams don't have players that make the probowl? Or are you supporting my point that idiotic fans can elevate guys who really don't deserve to go?

For either way, I could make a case, seeing as Snyder basically bought a bunch of probowl spots one year by getting Redskins fans to vote repeatedly for guys who weren't that good. Another couple of examples are Mike Vick and Mr. Horsecollar himself, Roy Williams. Neither were very good at their position, yet somehow made it due to hype over substance.

Every now and then, you also have guys who make it from teams that aren't good, but their individual performances were rock-solid. But this is not even close to the norm, though. It does happen, but how often? You could probably cite some fine examples, but over what time frame and era of football would they come from? And no, Barry Sanders does not count.. he wasn't exactly your run of the mill blue-collar guy to begin with

[holycrikey]

I agree with the rest of you. I enjoy the Pro Bowl, but I wish fans had either zero input, or like someone else said, 1/10th of the vote or such. Fans are too loyal to their team and thus vote for every single member of their team. Just isn't fair.

Oh well. We'll see at 7:00 today who made it.

I'm much more excited for the season to end and see what changes (if any) the Panthers make towards staff and players.

[Boltergeist]

slow leaks

Cribbs and Thomas (CLE), and McKinnie (MIN)

add Shaun O'Hara (NYG)

[rico6]

Bryant-fuging-McKinnie?!

Jesus..Wasn't the dude practically benched because he was getting absolutely owned by peppers?

[Squirrel]

Reason fans shouldnt get a vote.

[Boltergeist]

McKinnie said on his twitter that he's a starter .... I think he'd rather pull out of that honor.

[scpanther22]

Bryant-f**king-McKinnie?!

Jesus..Wasn't the dude practically benched because he was getting absolutely owned by peppers?

Should tell you how good peppers is...

[rico6]

Should tell you how good peppers is...

And tell you how bad Pro-bowl voting is.

[scpanther22]

*Waits on...more pro bowl conspiracy theories*

:cryin:

[jpniner]

What about Baker as Punter?

[MurkN]

What about Baker as Punter?

Probably not. If we would have had more 3 and outs instead of INTs during the beginning of the year, we could have seen him showcase his punting skills to the league.

[Dpantherman]

Which means he gets the 1.5 million dollar bonus.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2009/12/panthers-peppers-makes-pro-bowl-earns-15-million-bonus.html

[rico6]

*Waits on...more pro bowl conspiracy theories*

:cryin:

[PhillyB]

poo. i don't want any of our guys making the probowl... completely worthless, IMO, and it'll make 'em demand more on paydays. pep making the pro bowl will make it harder to resign him next year if that's what we're trying to do.