Peppers contract Situation Discussion Thread (Dpanthers started it (^-^))

[csx]

Eggzactly.

and with a realistic chance of a lockout.....people love to throw around all this theoretical play money

[Kevin Greene]

And yes, Peppers could end up in Dallas people.

Or maybe San Diego would opt to replace Merriman with Peppers.

The Final Eight Plan permits the division-round losers to sign one player to a contract having an adjusted salary in the first year of $5.5 million or more. (For some reason, we thought it was "or less." Thus, the f--kup.) The division-round losers also may sign an unlimited number of unrestricted free agents to contracts with first-year adjusted salaries of $3.7 million or less, with limitations on future growth.

In English, this means that the Cowboys, Cardinals, Ravens, and Chargers can sign one guy to a Haynesworth-style contract at 12:01 a.m. ET on the first day of free agency. Thus, the presumably big-spending Cowboys can still pursue Peppers (or some other big-name unrestricted free agent), if they so choose.

The conference finalists, however, can't. And then there's the reality that most teams are expected not to spend huge money on player contracts, as part of the 2011 lockout fund.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/02/clarification-on-the-peppers-contract/

[Phil Dees]

And yes, Peppers could end up in Dallas people.

Or maybe San Diego would opt to replace Merriman with Peppers.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/02/clarification-on-the-peppers-contract/

Yep, I posted about that in this thread: http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/29855-top-8-teams-couldnt-sign-peppers-anyway.html

[Samuel L. Jackson]

1. The “Final Eight” plan:

This plan you may have heard about will cause the final 8 playoff teams (the 1 and 2 seeds from each conference, and the winners of the 3-6, 4-5 seed games in each conference) to not be able to enter a normal free agency period in 2010.

The final four teams in the playoffs (the participants of the conference championship games) will not be allowed to sign any unrestricted free agents in 2010, except:

a. Those who became Unrestricted by being waived from another team.

b. Their own Unrestricted free agents from this past season

c. One Unrestricted free agent per Unrestricted free agent from their team this past season signed by another team. This stipulation also specifies that the “New Player’s” first year salary cannot be higher than the salary of the lost free agent’s first year salary.

The remaining four playoff teams (those who lost in the round before the conference championships) are also restricted to a, b, and c above, but have the opportunity to sign any Unrestricted free agent as follows:

d. (1) One player that will have a first year salary of $4,925,000 or more, and

(2) Any number of players who’s contract cannot have more than $3,275,000 in the first year and who’s additional years have no more than 30% of that first year’s salary. In addition, these contracts cannot be later renegotiated to increase the salaries of later years until one year after the signing date.

This plan is to prevent any of the elite teams (through advancement into the second round of the playoffs) from going on a spending spree and buying up all the upper tier free agents to add to their already strong rosters.

Also, it is important to note, any of the Final Eight teams cannot trade for any player that it wouldn’t be allowed to sign under the provisions above.

I already told you this...

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/27745-what-will-happen-in-an-uncapped-year-in-terms-everyday-panthers-fans-will-understand.html

The catch is that we'd pay Pep more than that in a first year salary, and if we can't get him to agree to it, we'll tag him...

[Dpantherman]

Jim Trotter from SI.com just said on ESPN2 that we would most likely look for a trade partner and franchise him, in order to get something in return for Peppers

[grateflday]

Jim Trotter from SI.com just said on ESPN2 that we would most likely look for a trade partner and franchise him, in order to get something in return for Peppers

That is how it should happen. If Peppers and his agent screw around again and prevent that, the Panthers should franchise his ass - then when he signs the offer the Panthers should trade him to some crappy team. If the Patriots were able to trade Seymore right before the season started, the Panthers should be able to do the same thing.

[Kettle]

i don't care what any speculator/reporter says. i want to see some real news on the situation, and until said facts are reported, all the quotes and speaking of what somebody said in the media is pretty much worthless.

[Snake]

The only reason all this is coming out is because of what Peps agent said. The only reason he said that was to drive up the asking price of Pep. Its not uncommon.

[Guest]

That is how it should happen. If Peppers and his agent screw around again and prevent that, the Panthers should franchise his ass - then when he signs the offer the Panthers should trade him to some crappy team. If the Patriots were able to trade Seymore right before the season started, the Panthers should be able to do the same thing.

with a note saying "next time try a real agent"

[CatMan72]

That is how it should happen. If Peppers and his agent screw around again and prevent that, the Panthers should franchise his ass - then when he signs the offer the Panthers should trade him to some crappy team. If the Patriots were able to trade Seymore right before the season started, the Panthers should be able to do the same thing.

No can do, Peppers could sabotage any trade he didn't like by refusing to sign long term with the other team or by demanding an absurd amount of $. Peppers would have to be on-board with any trade we negotiated while he was under the franchise tag...

...now if we can talk him into signing a contract without a "no-trade" clause, we could pull a Richard Seymour on him.

[PantherDude]

Jim Trotter from SI.com just said on ESPN2 that we would most likely look for a trade partner and franchise him, in order to get something in return for Peppers

I would be all for that if that does happend & Pep agree to it. I just hope whatever happend, it won't affect our defense much.

[klumme]

Not so fast...

If we tag Peppers and he sign his tender we can trade him and he has nothing to say about it. The hard part is finding someone willing to pay him 20 mil for one season.

But hey Raiders gave away a 1st round pick for a one year deal with Seymour. If he refuse to sign a new contract Al the Fool would have paid a 1st for one year in which they sucked once again..

Maybe we can trade Peppers to that fool:) Or maybe we let Peppers go and go after Seymour.

[grateflday]

That is how it should happen. If Peppers and his agent screw around again and prevent that, the Panthers should franchise his ass - then when he signs the offer the Panthers should trade him to some crappy team. If the Patriots were able to trade Seymore right before the season started, the Panthers should be able to do the same thing.

No can do, Peppers could sabotage any trade he didn't like by refusing to sign long term with the other team or by demanding an absurd amount of $. Peppers would have to be on-board with any trade we negotiated while he was under the franchise tag...

...now if we can talk him into signing a contract without a "no-trade" clause, we could pull a Richard Seymour on him.

Not really. Peppers would have no say, just like Seymour; and Seymour was also 30 and in the last year of a deal. The only difference is the size of the one year contract the team would have to take on for the one season. Seymour cost the Raiders $3.685mil and of course Peppers would be at $20million, but that is the only difference. I could be wrong, but that is how I understand it.

So back to my original point.... if Peppers and his agent wont work with the Panthers to facilitate a sign and trade that makes all parties involved happy, included the place he goes and wants to go to - then they should tag his ass and trade him to some crappy team. If he and his agent are to much of an ass again then he deserves it. And if the one year $$ is to big then dont demand a 1st rounder. I am sure there is an owner or two out there who would take the one year hit in an uncapped year if it only cost a 2nd or 3rd or 4th or whatever for him in a trade. That is sure better than just letting him walk for NOTHING.

[Kurb]

edited thread title in hopes of saving the sliver of faith I have in the posters of this forum.