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mav1234 Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

Which is fine, if everyone stops acting like he is a godly qb. He had a nice Dak/Mac/Baker rookie year

He has an argument for having the best rookie QB season of all time. Dak also is in that argument but was on a good offense on a team one season removed from a 12-4 record.

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5 minutes ago, GhostOfDocAnderson said:

Does it matter? We are stuck with Bryce.

Of course it doesn't matter...

...but if you had to choose, what's your pick?

 

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35 minutes ago, RayRedd said:

Of course it doesn't matter...

...but if you had to choose, what's your pick?

 

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If I had to choose between the two? I'd choose the one with by far the less annoying, delusional, and excuse making fanbase. That's just me, but that boat has sailed.

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4 hours ago, mav1234 said:

Stroud had a couple of bad games but was sacked 3, 4, and 5 times in the three games before the Jets game and still threw a total of 900 yards with 6 total TDs... Stroud was hit very frequently and still performed. Let's not act like he had some godly OL.

Let's also not act like the Panthers had a bad OL. 

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18 hours ago, mav1234 said:

He has an argument for having the best rookie QB season of all time. Dak also is in that argument but was on a good offense on a team one season removed from a 12-4 record.

I named off 3 of the best rookie seasons of all time, add in Luck and RG3 and Cam. Good great and bad, jury still out on Mac and Baker. couple borderline HOF (Dak and luck if he didn’t retire) but that amazing rookie year isn’t a shoe-in for greatness. 

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2 minutes ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

I named off 3 of the best rookie seasons of all time, add in Luck and RG3 and Cam. Good great and bad, jury still out on Mac and Baker. couple borderline HOF (Dak and luck if he didn’t retire) but that amazing rookie year isn’t a shoe-in for greatness. 

Should add Marino, Rusty, Mariota, Jake Browning (?) as well in terms of qbr 

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      Actually that 4400 was based on a 16 game season to match Bryce's 16 games this year. Your offense has to be to drive the ball when it matters. Bryce doesn't do that with any level of consistency. If you're building a team that isn't focused on your QB, then fine. Then there's no need to pay Bryce as a franchise QB because literally anyone else will do. If you're going to pay him 50m plus per season, you have to be able to put the team on his shoulders and know he's going to carry the load. So far, when the pressure is on to get it done, Bryce has fallen miserably short of the target. 4-6 to finish out the season and 0-2 when all we need is a win to secure a playoff spot isn't stepping up and proving yourself as a franchise QB. I'd say it's quite the opposite.  There isn't a single coach in this league that would take Bryce over Burrow and very few if any that would take Bryce over Prescott. Hurts didn't have to throw in 2025 because Philly's defense was disgusting and Saquan had a MVP season. But then again, Hurts has shown that he can when it counts, and then there's his signature. Philly runs the tush push to lethal perfection, but that's a play we can't even consider with Bryce. You used 3 QBs from teams that had no defense to show QB stats don't always matter. When we had the worst defense in the NFL, we didn't see Bryce step up and carry the offense and put up gaudy numbers in a losing season because we were playing catch up. It was pretty much the opposite.  What have we seen from Bryce consistently to consider offering him a top 10 NFL franchise QB level contract? At the end of the day, that's all that matters.   
    • KillerKat
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    • LinvilleGorge
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      By LinvilleGorge · Posted

      If you pay Bryce $50M a year you greatly limit your ability to put the type of team around him you need to have to have a chance to win. THAT is the problem. Hell, we can't win with him on a rookie contract. How the hell are we supposed to start winning with him paying him like a franchise QB and having to make tough roster decisions to accommodate his cap hit? 
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