Doubling down on Young. I don't like it. We NEED Young insurance.

[0kBoomer]

7 hours ago, SOJA said:

this is fair.

I'd put tier one WRs as: Hill, Cupp, Jefferson, Chase, Adams, AJ Brown

Tier 2: CeeDee, Stefon Diggs, aiyuk, Samuel, Armon Ra St. Brown, Mike Evans, Keenan Allen 

Tiet 3: Moore, Mclaurin, DK Metcalf, Jaylen Waddle, Godwin, Locket, Puka, Wilson, Olave, D. Smith, Tee Higgins, Mike Williams, Pittman

 

TBH there are a TON of good WR's in the NFL right now, any of the above names would be an instant upgrade for us by a multitude of factors lmao

 

I agree with everything except I think St. Brown and Lamb are tier 1. This year did a lot to propel them. 

[Davidson Deac II]

3 hours ago, strato said:

Top 5, ehh I don’t know but he is a load. Getting traded as just a piece in the deal will wake you up too, I’d bet.

WRs are dependent no doubt. We are going to have to overpay now that I think about it.

He was top 10 in yards with Fields throwing the ball on a team that was bottom five in the league in passing attempts.  With Mahomes or Allen throwing it, I have no doubt he would move into the top five.

Edited February 2, 2024 by Davidson Deac II

[0kBoomer]

31 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

He was top 10 in yards with Fields throwing the ball on a team that was bottom five in the league in passing attempts.  With Mahomes or Allen throwing it, I have no doubt he would move into the top five.

For him to move into top 5 you’d have to say he’s better than one of Jefferson, Hill, Chase, Cupp, And Adams. 
 
He isn’t anywhere close to them.

[frankw]

For all the complaining about how Bryce Young’s receivers are so awful it is amusing some of the same folks will vehemently argue DJ Moore is average at best.

[Davidson Deac II]

41 minutes ago, 0kBoomer said:

For him to move into top 5 you’d have to say he’s better than one of Jefferson, Hill, Chase, Cupp, And Adams. 
 
He isn’t anywhere close to them.

I wouldn't have to say that at all.  I think you are giving an opinion on who you think is best, which is ok but not relevant.  

I am looking only at statistics.  He was top 10 in yards this year.  I am saying with a better qb and a more pass heavy offense, he likely would have been in the top 5.  

[frankw]

Furthermore CMC has accomplished MVP discussion with the absurd amount of generational talent (aside from QB) and elite coaching around him and people are pretty much rooting for him and a former bitter rival of ours to win (another) Super Bowl.

So when I see the flip side of that which is DJ Moore in a QB and WR wasteland putting up top 10 numbers with Fields I assume that people who are not being consistent between the two have an agenda.

[top dawg]

20 minutes ago, frankw said:

For all the complaining about how Bryce Young’s receivers are so awful it is amusing some of the same folks will vehemently argue DJ Moore is average at best.

There you go with your shtick. I have never EVER EVER seen any Huddler say D.J. Moore is average. 

[frankw]

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

There you go with your shtick. I have never EVER EVER seen any Huddler say D.J. Moore is average. 

Nobody even quoted you.

Some are saying he's basically bottom 20. That's average at best.

Follow along.

Edited February 2, 2024 by frankw

[top dawg]

9 minutes ago, frankw said:

Furthermore CMC has accomplished MVP discussion with the absurd amount of generational talent (aside from QB) and elite coaching around him and people are pretty much rooting for him and a former bitter rival of ours to win (another) Super Bowl.

So when I see the flip side of that which is DJ Moore in a QB and WR wasteland putting up top 10 numbers with Fields I assume that people who are not being consistent between the two have an agenda.

And stop talking about Fields like he can't play. He obviously is highly talented, and he's the type of QB that will take some pressure off of his receivers because he's a threat to run. 

Being that Moore was their only real threat, he didn't have any lack of targets or catches.

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

And stop talking about Fields like he can't play. He obviously is highly talented, and he's the type of QB that will take some pressure off of his receivers because he's a threat to run. 

Being that Moore was their only real threat, he didn't have any lack of targets or catches.

Fields is talented but he is not a very good QB.

But he can do basic things like throw a good deep ball. Must be nice.

Edited February 2, 2024 by frankw

[top dawg]

Look at D.K. He's on a team that is run-first, has had to play alongside Lockett and now Smith-Njigba, but most NFL types would say he's higher rated than Moore. Where? It's arguable.

[0kBoomer]

48 minutes ago, frankw said:

Nobody even quoted you.

Some are saying he's basically bottom 20. That's average at best.

Follow along.

Show me any quotes of saying he’s a BOTTOM 20 receiver? 
 

I said he is TOP 20 at best which is accurate. Hes in the Mclaurin tier of receiver. A quality to high end starter but not a true top 5 guy in the league. 

[frankw]

4 hours ago, 0kBoomer said:

Show me any quotes of saying he’s a BOTTOM 20 receiver?

 

On 1/31/2024 at 10:27 PM, 0kBoomer said:

Moore isn’t even a top 15 receiver in the league. Probably in the 20-25 range. That isn’t a hot take.

Just how many wide receivers can you name off the top of your head?

For evaluation purposes let's cap it at 40. If you're arguing he's around 25 that's within the bottom 20. So average at best.

At least try to be consistent with your statements.

Edited February 2, 2024 by frankw

[Brooklyn 3.0]

You know the worst part about all this? If we don't get a "great" Oline, or get much better WR talent, the Young Crew will be at it all season yet again. It's almost as if they can't truly evaluate the kid until he has an elite team around him.