Agent: Panther's Having a Firesale, Have Thrown Away 2010 Season

[The Saltman]

Don't you know? We're screwed without Lewis and Kemo.

im not worried about our dt position as long as we can keep leonard and tyler. im a little worried about the DE position. I just hope johnson and brown can step it up.

[mountainpantherfan]

who is asking for a big splash? i am just concerned. i didnt say they have to sign every available fa. but honestly you just dont release 8 starters and say we will be better than we were. the guys we released probably are the best fa on the market now. so we either are going to sign guys who are worse than the ones we released or are better but will want a multi year contract.

In all honesty, most people on here don't want to admit that we are going into 2010 as a team rebuilding but the reality is that we are. I think the good news about the situation is that even with us rebuilding, we still have an amazing group of core players on the roster.

Yes, we let players go only with a hope that the younger players on the team will be able to step up. There is no gaurentees that will happen. But eventually teams have to rebuild, or as I like to look at what Carolina is doing as retooling. Considering the uncapped year, the players still on the roster and the future FA classes in 2011 and/or 2012; this is the most ideal time an organization will ever get to rebuild/retool. And I like this a whole hell of a lot more than the way Tampa went about it.

[Proudiddy]

Add Brad Hoover to the list...

[The Saltman]

:leaving: this thread

[carolinanimal]

In all honesty, most people on here don't want to admit that we are going into 2010 as a team rebuilding but the reality is that we are. I think the good news about the situation is that even with us rebuilding, we still have an amazing group of core players on the roster.

Yes, we let players go only with a hope that the younger players on the team will be able to step up. There is no gaurentees that will happen. But eventually teams have to rebuild, or as I like to look at what Carolina is doing as retooling. Considering the uncapped year, the players still on the roster and the future FA classes in 2011 and/or 2012; this is the most ideal time an organization will ever get to rebuild/retool. And I like this a whole hell of a lot more than the way Tampa went about it.

exactly my thoughts. i am not saying we will be 4-12 but i am not saying we will be superbowl bound either. i understand what is going on. we will be really set for the 2011 season, if there is one. honestly if there was a time to rebuild or retool this would be the year.

[blackcatgrowl]

Im sure The Charlotte Observer will get right on this and release 20 opinion pieces by Sorenson & Fowler in the next 2 weeks questioning our ownership being commited to "winning".

I'm normally very critical of the Observer's writings on the Panthers...

But you know what? If they were to write something along the lines of what you described... I'd say they were hitting close to the mark.

I haven't seen any aggressiveness out of the Panther's Front office in over a year (maybe 2). We made no significant pickups last year, and if this is correct, we're setting up to do the same. While at the same time sending some proven veterans down the road in an UNCAPPED year.

To keep your team in a winning position, you need an aggressive front office. Hell, look at the Saints. They methodically built their Super Bowl team from the Defensive Coordinator to their secondary and more. They went after talent and put together an almost unstoppable team. Do you think OUR front office will ever do that again?

The almost apologetic cry-fest by Fox and Hurney when releasing Jake Delhomme confirmed to me the problem I've suspected for years now. Fox and Hurney should have benched his ass after the first 5 games last year... but they are more concerned with their in-house feel-good buddy system than winning games.

[Sloth]

Yeah, and at least a couple of those ex-Panthers will probably never start another NFL game, unless one of their new teammates gets hurt. I mean, is anybody really worried about Carolina's offense having to face Damione Lewis if he ends up on a 2010 opponent's roster? What about Diggs or Landan Johnson?

While our opponent cowers in fear of Tyler, Leonard, Connor and Anderson.

Kemo and Peppers had to go for sure. Lewis, Brayton and Diggs? Diggs was underrated as hell and cheap. So was Brayton. Lewis talked with us about restructuring his deal so as to avoid being cut and was again very solid.

Nick "rollerskates" Hayden is our #3 DT right now. Our #1 and #2 DT are reclamation projects that are coming off IR. Leonard looked decent, Tyler looked like a rotational guy. We got the pothead from Indy too. He could be good if he holds together.

And for all the olol steelpatriotbuildthrutheDRAFTwhargbargle, we've decided to purge a ton of vets and contracts in a year that we have 5 draft picks and no first rounder.

Like someone said, it's still early and we've yet to begin our annual "sifting of the trash heaps" and we may kick ass in the draft. No sky is falling crap yet. But we're not a better team right now at all.

[carpanfan96]

Richardson is sealing John Fox and Marty Hurney's fate.. by giving them an inexperienced team, he is setting us up for failure this season, thus making it easier to cut Fox and Hurney for another sub-par season. Screw you Richardson.

Well according to reports from Gnatt, Hurney can come back if he wants too. So he is sealing Fox's fate with the young team. Unless Fox's gets this team to win 9-10 games he's most likely gone.

[mountainpantherfan]

exactly my thoughts. i am not saying we will be 4-12 but i am not saying we will be superbowl bound either. i understand what is going on. we will be really set for the 2011 season, if there is one. honestly if there was a time to rebuild or retool this would be the year.

Super Bowl bound based on the offseason? No. But thats what I really like about the way the FO is going about this offseason. This team has the chance to make itself into a Super Bowl contender in 2010. Likely, hell no. But possible. And if it doesn't happen in 2010, the outlook for 2011 and on looks good.

[Sloth]

Huddle wisdom on Brayton, Lewis, Diggs 2009: Underrated, play hard, lucky to have them.

Huddle wisdom on Brayton, Lewis, Diggs 2010: Scrubs, holding back our younger players and team, thank goodness they're gone.

[Peppers90 NC]

Up to this point, I'd say the agent is spot on...

I'm really starting to worry that we'll be shipping DeAngelo out soon...

Shipping? More like just let go.

[blackcatgrowl]

Like someone said, it's still early and we've yet to begin our annual "sifting of the trash heaps" and we may kick ass in the draft. No sky is falling crap yet. But we're not a better team right now at all.

Problem is, we've bargained away our damn draft opportunities too.

We have no 1st round pick... we have no 5th round pick.

We have FOUR draft picks (2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th). We might have five, but Green Bay could take our seventh round pick.

I see many more "rebuilding" opportunities for other teams besides us.

[MadHatter]

Huddle wisdom on Brayton, Lewis, Diggs 2009: Underrated, play hard, lucky to have them.

Huddle wisdom on Brayton, Lewis, Diggs 2010: Scrubs, holding back our younger players and team, thank goodness they're gone.

No one is saying that Brayton, Lewis, and Diggs are not solid players that play hard. Just that we have younger guys that we need to get on the field.

Would I like to keep Brayton and Diggs? Yes.

Do I think we are in trouble if we don't? No

[monstercat]

How about we give guys like Tank Tyler and Louis Leonard a chance before we condemn ourselves to 7-9? Just because they are unproven in a lot of fans eyes don't mean they won't be good players. Every player in the league was unproven at one time.

And no, I'm not saying we're Superbowl bound or anything, but just because we have a younger team doesn't mean it will be a worse team. Just having better QB play should make a world of difference on offense and Meeks has always been able to get a lot out of D-linemen that weren't "big names" or high priced FA's.