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Seattle was a run heavy team


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2 minutes ago, frankw said:

Our run game was not as bad last year as some insinuate. That's why this newfound emphasis on the run game is being met with an eye roll from some fans.

Your run game is supposed to setup the pass. But when the defense and particularly the secondary knows your QB isn't willing to or just isn't capable of pressing the issue in certain situations with his arm your run game means nothing. It's all on the tape from 2023. That's the work our new head coach has in store for him. I hope he's got some magic.

Your run game and pass game have to be complementary.  Having running backs who can catch and having wide receivers who are dangerous running the ball make you less predictable which is what you are alluding to.  It has been a while since our offenses could be described as innovative or creative.

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21 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Your run game and pass game have to be complementary.  Having running backs who can catch and having wide receivers who are dangerous running the ball make you less predictable which is what you are alluding to.  It has been a while since our offenses could be described as innovative or creative.

Right we agree.

But do you also agree that the defense you are facing has to fear your QB's passing ability or it's over before it starts?

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6 minutes ago, frankw said:

Right we agree.

But do you also agree that the defense you are facing has to fear your QB's passing ability or it's over before it starts?

And if your QB is at least a viable running option themselves? Yeah he can grab some yards on a scramble but he'll be in shotgun on 3rd and 1 kinda stuff. Cam/other guys can get under center and really work convincing play action in those situations. Until we see some major changes defenses are just gonna keep playing him the same way

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6 minutes ago, frankw said:

Right we agree.

But do you also agree that the defense you are facing has to fear your QB's passing ability or it's over before it starts?

Defenses have to respect the offense whether that is running or passing. Qbs in the NFL have to make plays to move the chains. And they have to be able to throw to all parts of the field and to all depths. Young in college threw a number of deep balls but his receivers had the advantage and much like Russell Wilson bhhe could throw it up and expect his guy to come down with the ball. Not so easy in the NFL especially with who we had. Maybe Legette and Sanders will be able to make the contested catch and make Young look good.

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If you wanna read through some bucs fans post season thoughts there were actually some helpful bucs fans on this topic. Basically Canales is consistent with being super positive and charismatic but wasn’t thought too highly of with being stubborn w his play style

 

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1 hour ago, Ghostofdelhomme said:

All this means is the early Russ years, you had a scrambling qb adding 100 carries and 800 yards to the  totals. 
 

And about 1000 yards of fug it, scramble yolo balls. I don’t see BY slinging it like that when the plays break down

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