We're 'Tier 4' according to NFL.coms Pat Kirwan

[Awesomeness!!]

I don't think we're clear cut Super Bowl contenders, but damn, just above the Browns and Raiders? ......good thing we all know how these rankings and predicted standings work out at the end of the year huh? Here is the entire read.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8184857e&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

[Happy Panther]

6-10

[Black]

this has been posted and discussed

[Panther59]

Carolina's youngest team ever, will go 10-6 this season. WRITE IT DOWN! We have a TON of young talent that will take us further than most think. :smash:

[Wither]

this has been posted and discussed

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/36938-kirwan-lists-us-as-a-tier-4-team.html

[ChucktownK]

We can't win the SB?!!!!!

Damn...why should we even bother?

[caatfan]

The lower they rate us, the better I like it.

[89bottomline]

i got the panthers as the 7th best team in the nfc and the 11th best overall

[Jangler]

Isn't Kirwan drunk 23.5 hours out of the day?

[Nu Guns]

If the superbowl were in Green Bay or Buffalo this year we would be ranked higher

[brandon_87]

The lower they rate us, the better I like it.

I like it for the odds when I bet but other then that I hate it with a passion when people under rate us, can nobody else in the world understand without delhomme we have a awesome passing game? our defense isnt bad and yet we still get thrown under the bus, every damn year!!!

[Chaos]

Isn't Kirwan drunk 23.5 hours out of the day?

If not, he should seriously consider it.

[The Don]

Well... if you're a true fan, like I am, you rank them in the top 5 (or #1 but I'll say top 5 just for discussion). I have them going 13-3, only losing to Baltimore, @ New Orleans, and @ Pittsburgh. Probably losing to the Vikings in the NFC Championship game, as it would be a home game should Favre return.. which means I have them ranked higher than the Panthers, finishing the season at 14-2.

I know some of you are probably asking, why is this idiot seriously even considering this? Well, if you think back over the past eight or so seasons that John Fox has coached here, he's brought in youth, and veterans have taught these young players how to play the game in short periods of time. Yes, we've lost a lot of veteran leadership this offseason, but we've also retained a large amount of young "veteran" talent that all already have at least three or four seasons under their belt. The 3rd year is usually where you see a lot of their talent flourish. Although they may not be in their 3rd year exactly, guys like Beason, Godfrey, Gamble, Davis and even Tyler Brayton on defense all ring bells. Guys like Gross, Moore, Otah, D. Williams, obviously Steve Smith, and Jonathan Stewart (in particularly). Yes, we have holes, but scattered across the board, with enough young veteran players to pick up the slack. 13-3 is not hard to imagine, considering we went 12-4 with Delhomme at the helm, going through a 22nd ranked schedule in 2008 before his Tommy Jon arm went ratard on him.

[brandon_87]

Well... if you're a true fan, like I am, you rank them in the top 5 (or #1 but I'll say top 5 just for discussion). I have them going 13-3, only losing to Baltimore, @ New Orleans, and @ Pittsburgh. Probably losing to the Vikings in the NFC Championship game, as it would be a home game should Favre return.. which means I have them ranked higher than the Panthers, finishing the season at 14-2.