Coaching Succession

[Baschski]

We need a hard nosed coached that loves to run the football and believes in defense as more than a way to get the ball back. We need John Fox with a more accountable approach. I think the best guy for the job is Bill Cowher, honestly. I'm tired of seeing players make mistakes and come back to the sideline without having a word said to them. We need somebody to shake these guys up and hold them accountable instead of clapping at them nonsensically when they screw up or do well. It makes no sense.

Oh come on, you could just as easily argue that it doesn't make sense to berate a player after they've made a mistake--they know what they did wrong and yelling at them is only going to make them feel worse and play worse.

Coaches have different styles. Yelling isn't the only way to coach. Fox's players have always had a very deep respect for him because of the way he treats them. He's a player's coach. He will never throw his guys under the bus. He's on their side. He believes that the head coach should be a supporter to his players, not another opponent.

[Wither]

I'm tired of seeing players make mistakes and come back to the sideline without having a word said to them. We need somebody to shake these guys up and hold them accountable instead of clapping at them nonsensically when they screw up or do well. It makes no sense.

This isn't high school. These guys get paid to play well and when they mistakes, they will correct them. They don't need extra motivation; they are not kids.

[BF91]

Here's something for you Cowher supporters to think about: John Fox's winning percentage is great than Bill Cowher's without Dick LeBeau. Cowher wasn't the driving force behind those Steeler teams, it was LeBeau and his defense.

[BF91]

Here's something for you Cowher supporters to think about: John Fox's winning percentage is greater than Bill Cowher's without Dick LeBeau. Cowher wasn't the driving force behind those Steeler teams, it was LeBeau and his defense.

[PantherDude]

Here's something for you Cowher supporters to think about: John Fox's winning percentage is greater than Bill Cowher's without Dick LeBeau. Cowher wasn't the driving force behind those Steeler teams, it was LeBeau and his defense.

I agree on Cowher. People want him because he won a Superbowl. Just because you won the Superbowl doesn't mean you could bring the same success to a different team. I also laugh at fans who say they want Cowher 'cause he won more Playoffs than Fox. Sure he won more Playoffs, but do you diehard Cowher's fans want the Panthers to win more Playoffs or the Superbowl? I bet if Steelers never won in Superbowl XL, you fans wouldn't want Cowher here. It also took him more than 10 yrs. to get one too.

[Peppers90 NC]

John Fox should be extended. I will take consistency and the potential to be a good team every year over a new guy that surprises everyone with one good season. Every team knows John Fox and his style of football, yet he still has a winning record. The team needed to be restructured in the way that they are doing now for there to be a real chance every year.

Fox has been close a few times and in the meantime other teams have been through a few coaches and still looking to be even as consistent as him.

You should only replace a head coach when you are guaranteed an upgrade. Bill Cowher is not a guaranteed upgrade and besides, is it a sure thing he would even come here? Who says Mr. Richardson's patience is running thin with John Fox? I believe the ONLY reason why John Fox has not yet been extended is because of the uncertainty of 2011. Why pay John Fox to do little? Once a future season is guaranteed, John Fox will be extended.

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[thefuzz]

Big Cat removed his SONS from their positions within the FO.

Fox is not signed long term.

We have no idea what is really going on with Hurney.

I would say that JR is not opposed to a shake up.

[DynastyRTR]

Jim Tressel, Ohio State's HC...or Kirby Smart, Alabama's defensive coordinator.

[magnus]

My first choice would be to hire someone outside like Sean McDermott- Eagles DC. We need an aggressive defense in a great scheme which helps make up for average talent. If Meeks goes to more Cover 1 man under this year I could be swayed his way. Otherwise I am tired of the break don't bend defenses under Fox.

we played more of c1 with man technique than anything else in the last half of the year. It was the way to use Harris, it was the way to stop the run, and it's the largest variant play called from c2 teams that aren't disguising behind c2. We're actually much less likely to use it this year than last.

[Matt Foley]

Here's something for you Cowher supporters to think about: John Fox's winning percentage is greater than Bill Cowher's without Dick LeBeau. Cowher wasn't the driving force behind those Steeler teams, it was LeBeau and his defense.

Without Trgovac, Fox is 15-17.

[Baschski]

i hope we keep Fox, but if we dont, then i would like to promote davidson. he has learned from some of the best. If not Davidson, then bring in someone from outside of the organization. I am just not sold on meeks yet, i dont know if his scheme is going to work or not. if it does, then i wouldnt be against him as HC.

His scheme was spectacular once the players got the hang of it last year. Either way, whether or not his scheme works doesn't really have much bearing on whether or not he'll be a good head coach. Dick LeBeau runs some of the best schemes in league history and he struggled as a head coach. I'm more attracted to the fact that Meeks is a Tony Dungy pupil.

[Jangler]

Without Trgovac, Fox is 15-17.

[Jangler]

Without Trgovac, Fox is 15-17.

[Baschski]

i can buy that.

but davidson comes from a pretty impressive coaching tree as well, thats the main reason why i like him over meeks.

Yeah, I have confidence that they are both solid candidates. I haven't decided which one I would prefer...not that it matters.