If Corvey Irvin is cut...

[CatMan72]

Between the Irvin pick (93) and the Goodson pick (111), Brian Hartline is probably the only player worth mentioning.

Phew, okay cool.

Missing on draft picks is a given, better a 3rd rounder than a 1st or 2nd rounder.

[ChucktownK]

-$$$$ win

[mountainpantherfan]

Irvin got hurt last year pretty early during the preseason and spent the entire season on IR. To me this is his rookie year and I felt he looked good so far in the first three preseason games.

I don't see them cutting Irvin. The Panthers have always had 9 DL on the roster and I would put Irvin ahead of Eric Moore and Taylor to grad that last spot.

You can never have too many DT on this team...

[Yve11]

You guys really should do your research before making such bold statements. How could you call Irvin a bust when he hasn't had the opportunity to play a regular season game yet? A guy that had a solid performance in preseason and training camp both this year and last year but was unable to play a season due to being placed on injured reserve isn't a bust in my book. If you all had done your research you would also note that prior to Irvin's injury last preseason he had just racked up a sack.

Guys coming into the league at this position often times are work in progress, especially when you aren't able to get a consisten flow of reps in order to get into rythmn. Hell Steve Smith's first couple of years were nothing to write home about.

Having a career in professional sports from the management side, I strongly disagree with you guys.

None of the starting DT's currently on the roster have numbers or prior experience to boast about.

One day you all glorify someone then the next you trash them.

I really hope Irvin isn't cut and proves you all wrong!

[Carl Spackler]

You guys really should do your research before making such bold statements. How could you call Irvin a bust when he hasn't had the opportunity to play a regular season game yet? A guy that had a solid performance in preseason and training camp both this year and last year but was unable to play a season due to being placed on injured reserve isn't a bust in my book. If you all had done your research you would also note that prior to Irvin's injury last preseason he had just racked up a sack.

Guys coming into the league at this position often times are work in progress, especially when you aren't able to get a consisten flow of reps in order to get into rythmn. Hell Steve Smith's first couple of years were nothing to write home about.

Having a career in professional sports from the management side, I strongly disagree with you guys.

None of the starting DT's currently on the roster have numbers or prior experience to boast about.

One day you all glorify someone then the next you trash them.

I really hope Irvin isn't cut and proves you all wrong!

Welcome to the Huddle.

1) I hope your background in professional sports involved better research than your ideas above. Go to NFL.com and look at Steve Smith's stats from his first few years...Pro Bowl RS as a rookie, 1,000 yards in his 3rd season. Safe to say that's something to write home about.

2) I never glorified or trashed anyone on here, don't make blanket statements.

3) One sack in preseason play doesn't deserve anyone jumping on his bandwagon.

4) I seem to recall including putting the word "if" in the thread title, implying the possibility he is cut. Ignoring the possibility is just that, ignorance. It's about being realistic. I have nothing against him or anyone on the team.

[Zod]

How could you call Irvin a bust when he hasn't had the opportunity to play a regular season game yet?

Because he never earned playing time?

[Anybodyhome]

By all accounts it was a big reach to draft him in the 3rd round to begin with...

Are we talking about Edwards or Irvin?

[Cyberjag]

This is all just Gannt's opinion, based on the fact that Irvin hasn't done anything.

[Yve11]

Being realistic indeed however if you read the entire 3 pages worth of thread I think it's safe to say that you along with others have bashed him as a bust along with statements about other players.

It always amazes me how some loyal fans seem think they are so knowledgeable by hiding behind internet reports and stats.

Again I will say I hope Irvin as well as Goodson (I believe he was mentioned in this thread as well) go on to prove you wrong.

Good day to you.

[Yve11]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yve11

How could you call Irvin a bust when he hasn't had the opportunity to play a regular season game yet?

Because he never earned playing time?

Maybe because he was on injured reserve, duh!

[Yve11]

And I feel the same about Edwards also..........

And in reference to Steve Smith I did say his first couple of years not his entire career. His first year he started only one game with 0 touchdowns. My point in saying that is you can't use someone's rookie year or lack of a rookie year as a basis to say they are a bust.

[Carl Spackler]

And I feel the same about Edwards also..........

And in reference to Steve Smith I did say his first couple of years not his entire career. His first year he started only one game with 0 touchdowns. My point in saying that is you can't use someone's rookie year or lack of a rookie year as a basis to say they are a bust.

Please point out where I said he was a bust. I'll wait patiently.

If a team drafts a player in the third round and he never sees one second of regular season playing time, that's not a good pick.

[Woodie]

Irvin has been fine. No, he hasn't made any plays...good or bad. He's held his ground, made tackles when the play came his way, and has gotten a bit of penetration. But with Landri exceeding expectations and so many players making big plays, it seems that Irvin has been somewhat lost in the shuffle.

I also think people forget that he is still a developing player. I know that most fans here are all about instant gratification, but Irvin is a guy that has the potential to be a very solid penetrating DT. Anyone that did even basic research on him after he was drafted would have realized he was not a finished product, but has good potential, and would likely take a year or two to begin showing that potential...and that was before going on IR. So if he does get cut, it is more due to other players stepping up and not enough roster spots than anything negative about him...of course if that does happen, I would bet we try to stash him on the PS if he gets through waivers.

[OneBadassCat]

I think he just needs another year to progress. Definitely better than Hayden.