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Panther players who will need to be signed this offseason


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Depending on how well our other CBs do this year, I can see us letting Marshall walk. Also, those figures made me realize why DJ is on this team. Fox is coaching through his last year of course and he is auditioning his coaching skills & drafting ability to the other NFL teams...and if DJ ends up finally doing something this year, then LaFell works out, he will finally have shown he can draft a good WR which seems to be the only position he can't figure out too well. That's just my 2 c.

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I don't think moving Beason is an indication of Davis' return. They're simply trying to get the best guys on the field at each position.

Where does Davis fit in if he can return? The SLB just is not a position you sink much money into in this scheme. Do you really think they are going to keep switching our biggest playmaker to get a lesser playmaker on the field?

Frankly, now that Beason is at WLB, unless his production drops, I see him there for the duration of Meeks tenure.

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Where does Davis fit in if he can return? The SLB just is not a position you sink much money into in this scheme. Do you really think they are going to keep switching our biggest playmaker to get a lesser playmaker on the field?

Frankly, now that Beason is at WLB, unless his production drops, I see him there for the duration of Meeks tenure.

Doubtful, if davis is 100% 52 moves back to the middle and connor back to the bench.

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Doubtful, if davis is 100% 52 moves back to the middle and connor back to the bench.

Fair enough.

There is always the possibility that Beason outperforms what Davis was producing and Connor plays at a level that is similar to what Beason prouced last year?

Pointless playing the what if game, so let's just leave at this. I have a feeling Davis will be allowed to test free agency, if he comes back to us all depends on if someone pays him a contract his health does not warrant.

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Where does Davis fit in if he can return? The SLB just is not a position you sink much money into in this scheme. Do you really think they are going to keep switching our biggest playmaker to get a lesser playmaker on the field?

Frankly, now that Beason is at WLB, unless his production drops, I see him there for the duration of Meeks tenure.

Honestly when Davis is 100% he's the best Line backer on the field, but Beason is the best all around athlete so I can see them switching Beason back to MLB if Davis makes a complete recovery.

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Between Beason, Kalil, and DeAngelo Williams; there will be about $70 million guaranteed(give or take some.)

This is based off the contract extensions of Patrick Willis/DeMeco Ryans(I put Beason in the middle of those 2,) Steven Jackson, and Nick Mangold. Obviously Willis/Mangold's contracts are the #1 contracts for their respective positions, and I wasn't entirely sure on the most recent elite running back contract, so I used Steven Jacksons as an example.

I'm not sure of Thomas Davis' value because of the injuries, but I'd guess he'd be getting a pretty good amount of guaranteed money as well.

edit: Patrick Willis' contract is $50 million with $29 million guaranteed. Steven Jackson' is $44 million with $20 million guaranteed, and Nick Mangold's is $57 million with $25 million guaranteed.

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Between Beason, Kalil, and DeAngelo Williams; there will be about $70 million guaranteed(give or take some.)

This is based off the contract extensions of Patrick Willis/DeMeco Ryans(I put Beason in the middle of those 2,) Steven Jackson, and Nick Mangold. Obviously Willis/Mangold's contracts are the #1 contracts for their respective positions, and I wasn't entirely sure on the most recent elite running back contract, so I used Steven Jacksons as an example.

I'm not sure of Thomas Davis' value because of the injuries, but I'd guess he'd be getting a pretty good amount of guaranteed money as well.

edit: Patrick Willis' contract is $50 million with $29 million guaranteed. Steven Jackson' is $44 million with $20 million guaranteed, and Nick Mangold's is $57 million with $25 million guaranteed.

Bingo.

I fully expect Beason and Kalil to be taken care of this off season. IF Williams is kept via tag or contract we will be taking on a heavy guaranteed set of contracts, which is exactly what we just dug ourselves out of.

With all that money tied up in one off season it makes it very very very unlikely that the FO will then look at Davis, Marshall and Johnson and be wanting to sink even more money into them. Even if they only ask for modest deals we are tying ourselves up significantly with just a few players. We basically will have mutli year deals across almost all our starters (not rookie deals) which means we will have to seriously pinch the pennies (English saying) with our depth.

In my opinion, Marshal, Johnson & Davis will at the very least be allowed to test free agency. We just can't afford to tie up 6 players in one off season. 3 is hard enough (see last off season with Pep, Gross, Gamble) just look at what we had to do to get those guys under contract.

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I think TD is a risk. I think you extend Beason, re-sign Kalil, then Williams. After that, you kinda have to lowball TD (damaged goods--if we lowball, the rest of the league will back off), Marshall (He wanted to be paid as one of the top CBs in the league when he was the nickel. We have Munnerlyn, McClain, and possibly Pugh ready to take that spot if he leaves.)

If Moore has a big season, he will be offered more money by another team than we are willing to pay knowing Clausen is in the garage. If he sucks, we may not be able to keep him here as a reserve behind a 23 year old starter. I think this is Moore's last year here. The only way he stays: If he does OK, but not well enough to command top dollar or poorly enough to lose the starting position.

Kalil needs to be paid, but we are going to have to be creative. He is SO important to the OL's success. He is the leader up there, the smartest player they have. We lose Kalil, Williams is not as good.

Williams seems important, but there are a few things to consider. He will start to drop off in about 2 years. Usually rich second contracts are not wise investments for RBs, and Stewart/Goodson/Sutton is pretty good. Why do you think we kept Vaughan on the PS with 4 RBs on the roster?

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