Charles Godfrey

[Udogg]

With average S play that came would have been totally different.

Really? You putting that game on Godfrey? Not the atrocious goal line play calling. Not the 3 endzone pics? Not the 8475398754 QB pressures? Not Richard Marshall and Gamble looking lost? Charles Godfrey is the reason?

[SOJA]

Wow you just really hate him. He is definitely not the worst safety in the NFL. I'm not saying he is perfect but it's not like he gave up THAT many plays, and so what if his ints were tipped, he was still in position to catch them

[LinvilleGorge]

I wouldn't necessarily say he's the worst starting safety in the league, but I do stand by the statement that he is not a starting caliber NFL DB.

He only got his first INT because he was late getting to the play. He was essentially rewarded for being out of position.

[Paintballr]

Anyone else notice the similarity of Godfrey covering on top with Marshall and Godfrey covering on top with Lucas?....

[MaineManPanther]

you don't pull him for one game. you pull him based of his career and ineffectiveness playing S in the NFL. He isn't a S. Never has been. He just keeps starting, and starting, and starting here.

His first year was a complete transition. Second year he showed definite progress towards the end, a fact that was noticed by reporters, players, stats websites and other huddlers. Yet somehow all those people saw something different then you.

To think that our backup pugh will do any better with his less starting expierence and our horrid pass rush is based on nothing.

[CRA]

Really? You putting that game on Godfrey? Not the atrocious goal line play calling. Not the 3 endzone pics? Not the 8475398754 QB pressures? Not Richard Marshall and Gamble looking lost? Charles Godfrey is the reason?

the game would have been totally different. Godfrey's 3 HUGE errors all came before the 4th quarter meltdown. The game would have been totally different heading into the late stages of the game. Carolina would have had a good lead.

Godfrey is a big part in the CBs looking lost at times b/c he is doing them like he did Ken Lucas. Not doing his job providing help over the top.

[CRA]

His first year was a complete transition. Second year he showed definite progress towards the end, a fact that was noticed by reporters, players, stats websites and other huddlers. Yet somehow all those people saw something different then you.

what progress did he show in regards to being in position for his coverage assingnments in 09? What progress did he show in his ability to make a play on guys in the open field?

those FF's aren't examples of it.

[MaineManPanther]

what progress did he show in regards to being in position for his coverage assingnments in 09? What progress did he show in his ability to make a play on guys in the open field?

those FF's aren't examples of it.

What are you looking for in examples?

What do you base all your opinons on?

[SOJA]

the game would have been totally different. Godfrey's 3 HUGE errors all came before the 4th quarter meltdown. The game would have been totally different heading into the late stages of the game. Carolina would have had a good lead.

Godfrey is a big part in the CBs looking lost at times b/c he is doing them like he did Ken Lucas. Not doing his job providing help over the top.

Lets see. Maybe gave up one touchdown on the play that I think Marshall was supposed to be guarding Nicks (looked like both were confused on the defensive play call) but we will give him that one. Gamble gave up the touchdown to Bradshaw because of a missed tackle. Munnerlyn got beat by Nicks. Finally Marshall got beat by Nicks for the other touchdown. So by my count all three of our corners gave up a touchdown and so did Godfrey.

You can also count the Bradshaw run, but then again its human to miss tackles, heck even Beason does it sometimes. Bradshaw is a pretty shifty back in the open field. There were other run plays were Godfrey was up making a good push. And both Beason and Munnerlyn dropped potential picks. Godfrey hung on. That counts for something.

So I credit one touchdown to Godfrey, one to Gamble, one Munnerlyn, and one to Marshall. Like I said, and what other reasonable people are saying, Godfrey is by far from perfect or even great. But blaming this loss entirely on him is asinine and ludicrous.

Oh yeah and did I forget to mention three interceptions in the endzone?

[KillerKat]

Godfrey was terrible in '08, in '09 pre-injury, and Sunday. No progression at all.

[MaineManPanther]

Godfrey was terrible in '08, in '09 pre-injury, and Sunday. No progression at all.

I agree. Late last season was when he showed improvment. This is the first game we saw after that progress, which is why I want to see a few more games before beleiveing he deserves to be benched.

[SOJA]

I agree. Late last season was when he showed improvment. This is the first game we saw after that progress, which is why I want to see a few more games before beleiveing he deserves to be benched.

Well said. It's kind of like wanting to bench Moore already over Clausen. Sure Pugh might be better. But if Pugh sucks worse than Godfrey then we really lose out. Give Godfrey a little more time than week 1 then we can decide whether he needs to be benched or not.

[MadHatter]

The DB's were slipping on that turf. Combination of the rubber pellets and the moisture made them look terrible.

However, Godfrey was out of position on play after play after play. He was God Awful.

[CRA]

I agree. Late last season was when he showed improvment. This is the first game we saw after that progress, which is why I want to see a few more games before beleiveing he deserves to be benched.

he generated FF's. After his return, he showed no improvement in his coverage and was still always out of position. But people like turnovers and hard hits....therefore they decided that since he did that he was getting better at all the stuff he sucks at. He didn't. This is and has always been the same kid from 08