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Mr. Scot

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I never thought Locker was as good as the hype, and I've heard plenty of questions about him (even last year).

Luck though? I've seen enough to be sold. Most of the NFL scouts looking at him need to wear bibs to deal with the drooling.

True...from what I have seen Luck looks like a good QB in the making..but if a new CBA gets done I could see us trading down.

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True...from what I have seen Luck looks like a good QB in the making..but if a new CBA gets done I could see us trading down.

I'd rather we didn't, especially if the new CBA includes the rookie cap.

If you have the number one pick, I don't see how you can pass on Luck. It's the kind of move that can wreck a GM's career.

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I'd rather we didn't, especially if the new CBA includes the rookie cap.

If you have the number one pick, I don't see how you can pass on Luck. It's the kind of move that can wreck a GM's career.

I rather draft Luck..

But I would not hate trading down..you could get a lot of picks and surround the team with a lot of talent.

Gantt brought this subject up. He said he rather have a top 10-15 QB( a Joe Flacco type) with more talent around him over a Peyton Manning type where he is the entire football team..

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I rather draft Luck..

But I would not hate trading down..you could get a lot of picks and surround the team with a lot of talent.

Gantt brought this subject up. He said he rather have a top 10-15 QB( a Joe Flacco type) with more talent around him over a Peyton Manning type where he is the entire football team..

Granted, but outside of being young, you could argue a significant part of the team is already built.

If the CBA is signed, I see the Panthers spending a fair amount to re-sign their core guys as well as spending a dollar or two to pick up some vets at spots where a little leadership is needed. If they do that, there's no need to stockpile picks. After all, that'd make us even younger as a team than we already are.

Realistically, I think they can accomplish a significant turnaround with just a normal offseason's turnover (generally in the range of 10-15 roster spots, not all of them starters). And yeah, I think you could get something for Clausen in trade to a WCO team. Not a first rounder, maybe not even a first day pick, but something.

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Granted, but outside of being young, you could argue a significant part of the team is already built.

If the CBA is signed, I see the Panthers spending a fair amount to re-sign their core guys as well as spending a dollar or two to pick up some vets at spots where a little leadership is needed. If they do that, there's no need to stockpile picks. After all, that'd make us even younger as a team than we already are.

Realistically, I think they can accomplish a significant turnaround with just a normal offseason's turnover (generally in the range of 10-15 roster spots, not all of them starters). And yeah, I think you could get something for Clausen in trade to a WCO team. Not a first rounder, maybe not even a first day pick, but something.

yeah, thats the mian issue i have with going through another draft. that just means the team stays younger. at some point we need to be getting some age and some experience in here. granted..not a bunch of 30 somethings, but still, guys with 4-5 years in the league.

we will probably have about 10 draft picks, much like last year. i'm not sure how many comp picks there are, but they'll be a few and one will be in the third round (thanks to pep). i wouldn't be opposed to trading any of the tradeable non-first round picks we have to get some experience in here. OG, DT, and WR are areas that i really think we need to be focusing in on getting some more experience. OG and DT we just need to get better period. maybe trade for a CB to replace marshall as well. who knows?

anyway, i can see where trading down would have its benefits in getting more picks, but if we did, i would probably rather trade the draft picks away for experience.

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Eeeehhh, not really.

Every year there's a guy (or guys) that are considered the best in their particular class, but not all of those guys are on the same plane.

There was a year when Heath Shuler and Trent Dilfer were the best that the college ranks had to offer. And while people agreed they were first round caliber, nobody was confusing them with John Elway or Dan Marino. Guys like Elway, Marino, Peyton and others don't show up every year. They're once-in-a-lifetime choices that GMs bypass at their own risk.

The question is whether Luck is "that kind of player". Jury overall might still be out, but a fair number of draft guys think he may just be.

SOO many guys have been that "once in a lifetime" player and turned out to be collassal failures.

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Interesting that the announcers brought up how Fox and John Harbaugh were coaching colleagues back at the University of Pittsburgh.

Gotta wonder, would his acquaintance with the Harbaugh family have any effect on the Panthers ability to get Jim Harbaugh as a head coach?

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It's definitely a "good news / bad news" day for Harbaugh fans.

There's the Gantt post, but then there's also the Peter King bit (link)

The third-most desirable guy (unless John Fox's star is not totally tarnished by this awful season in Carolina) might be Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh, who I think would love an NFL job someday. This just might not be the day. Even if potential franchise quarterback Andrew Luck leaves Stanford early, the weirdness of the 2011 landscape may make college a lot more desirable in 2011 for Harbaugh.

Rght now, I'd say Harbaugh/Luck fans are the ones who have the most to lose if the CBA issue isn't resolved by season's end.

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well...all fans have a lot to lose if the new CBA isn't reached.

i'll be ok if luck doesn't come out or harbaugh doesn't get hired. i may weep for a minute or two, but i'd be ok. there's still some good choices out there. clausen still might turn out to be a good QB in the right system and a pick of green or peterson at #1 wouldn't be bad. i'd be a lot more in favor of the idea of trading down, thats for sure.

either way, as long as this season gets over and we get a chance to start over, i'm fine.

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Well, I think we can now officially say goodbye to Leslie Frazier as a candidate.

The scenario that's been speculated on for weeks - Childress being fired and Frazier taking over - has now happened.

Unless he completely tanks, he'll probably get to keep the job next season.

(and if he did completely tank and they let him go, why would you want him?)

Safe to say at this point Frazier is off the table.

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