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Not gonna lie, the future looks bleak

LinvilleGorge

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Hear me out here for a sec. I'm not talking about the coaching situation or anything like that. I'm talking about our situation compared to the rest of the division. The NFL has evolved into a QB league. You used to be able to win Super Bowls with a great D, a strong running game and just enough passing to keep your opponent honest. That's just no longer true. The way games are called these days you pretty much have to have an elite QB to have a chance,

The Saints have a top 5 QB in Brees. Matt Ryan in ATL is absolutely the real deal. Josh Freeman looks promising down in TB and seems to be coming into his own this year.

Meanwhile, we have Clausen who looks absolutely shell shocked and terrified. Rarely do you see young QBs recover from that. Moore looked horrible and now has a bun shoulder so will almost certainly not be resigned. Pike is a noodle armed 6th round pick.

In short, in a QB league, the rest of the division looks set at the position and the Panthers may not even have a capable backup.

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Hear me out here for a sec. I'm not talking about the coaching situation or anything like that. I'm talking about our situation compared to the rest of the division. The NFL has evolved into a QB league. You used to be able to win Super Bowls with a great D, a strong running game and just enough passing to keep your opponent honest. That's just no longer true. The way games are called these days you pretty much have to have an elite QB to have a chance,

The Saints have a top 5 QB in Brees. Matt Ryan in ATL is absolutely the real deal. Josh Freeman looks promising down in TB and seems to be coming into his own this year.

Meanwhile, we have Clausen who looks absolutely shell shocked and terrified. Rarely do you see young QBs recover from that. Moore looked horrible and now has a bun shoulder so will almost certainly not be resigned. Pike is a noodle armed 6th round pick.

In short, in a QB league, the rest of the division looks set at the position and the Panthers may not even have a capable backup.

I agree and after tonight the Falcons could be this years Saints. Just a sad reality.

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both the saints and the falcons went from not having a good qb to having a real qb and going to the playoffs in a matter of a year so /thread

This is true. But for every successful 1st round QB there are probably two busts and very rarely do you see a team let a QB like Brees walk. McNabb looks like he could be the best option available and he would definitely be a stop gap.

All I'm saying is we look to be the only team in the division who needs to fill the most important and difficult to fill spot on the roster. That does not bode well.

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We have the youngest team in the league.

We have a very healthy cap figure.

We will most likely have a high draft pick with which we can do anything with.

The Saints signed Drew Brees as a FA, the Falcons found Matt Ryan after a shitty year wth a high draft pick, the Buccaneers won a SB with a journeyman QB and their current QB looked like total poo his first year.

I disagree.

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This post is a rip off of one i posted during the atl game see:

Our Franchise QB!

The truth is the Panthers have never had a franchise QB!

We all thought it would be Kerry Collins, but we all know how that worked out for multiple reasons.

By the time Steve Beuerlein got here he was a solid qb, but still in the twilight of his career.

And Jake Delhomme was the true diamond in the rough, the ultimate underdog story, the kind of stuff sports movies are made out of and he came within seconds of reaching an unprecedented accomplishment of becoming a superbowl winning QB and he was a great person, but all that being said he wasn't a franchise guy!

The Panthers need some one who is a potential pro bowler every year, a guy worth 5 wins just by him self. Atlanta has this with Matt Ryan something they never dreamed of after the Vick fiasco. New Orleans has this in Drew Brees. And the bucs may have this with Josh Freeman. But at this point we do not. He may be on this roster, but so far i think it is fair to say it doesn't look promising. The good news is we have 8 games to potentially find this out. The truth is the Panthers have really only looked for a true franchise guys on 2 occasions Collins in the expansion draft, and the Clausen this year.

If the guy isn't on the roster the Panthers will have a good shot to find their guy in the draft next year in the form of Andrew Luck, Ryan Mallett, or another Jake, Jake Locker. And the odds are no matter what the QB situation is now when a new coach comes in he will want to have his own guy under center, its just the way it usually works in the NFL.

Until we find our guy at QB we as fans can forget about ever winning a division, much less a world championship in today's NFL. Yeah we may have a good year once every four years, but we will never be the winning program that Jerry Richardson truly wants here. For now we can only hope, wait, and see if we will find our guy!

Thanks as always Panther Nation stay strong!

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Ummmm we barely lost the superbowl with Jake at the helm, I wouldn't classify him as a franchise qb. Not a bad one, but definitely not a "franchise"

Key word being "almost". Jake played out of his mind in that game too.

The Bucs won with a journeyman 8 years ago, before the NFL changed the way they call illegal contact on the defense.

I'm not saying we're definitely going to be perennial bottom dwellers, but it's tough to argue that the rest of the division isn't better positioned than we are at the QB position right now. That was the primary point I was trying to make.

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