2-23

[Matt Foley]

That is the Panthers' record with Steve Smith and without Julius Peppers. Discuss.

[ZedLeppelin]

We need a QB to get Smith the ball.

[mav1234]

worthless stat is worthless.

Not being able to replace Peppers has hurt, and he may have helped keep us in games, but unless he started averaging a couple touchdowns he wouldn't have helped in most games.

[Wither]

The whole team has blowed during that period as well.

[Wither]

I can see this thread is going to end up pissing me off.

The problem right now is the offense can't get the ball down the field consistently (hell we change QB's every other day). It would be different if the offense was scoring and the problem was with the defense.

It's obvious that these two things have no direct correlation; the only thing they have in common is that the team "got younger" and lost veteran players (some who were good, some who weren't, some who were the FO's fault, and some who weren't).

[Matt Foley]

Actually it's 5-24. Peppers was suspended the last four games of his rookie season and the team went 3-1.

[Fiz]

hmmm yes hmmm indeed

[Jangler]

TCKL

24

SCK

2.0

FF

2

INT

1

so these stats would have gotten us a couple of more wins?

[panther4life]

At first i thought that was the rams record the past 2 years. Upon further examination it was actually 4-28

[Dpantherman]

*cue NJPanthers Peppers slurp fest*

[Kurb]

Meat has a crush on Smith

[CRA]

TCKL

24

SCK

2.0

FF

2

INT

1

so these stats would have gotten us a couple of more wins?

stats don't reflect play of a DE well. Peppers was playing fantastic to start off this season.

[Vagrant]

stats don't reflect play of a DE well. Peppers was playing fantastic to start off this season.

Just like most positions, they only reflect well when they're good numbers. Otherwise, they're useless.

[CRA]

Just like most positions, they only reflect well when they're good numbers. Otherwise, they're useless.

anyone who watched Peppers start this season would have to admit he was playing great football. that is all that matters.....he was having a huge impact.

stats aren't useless, they just don't tell you really what happpens in games. Charles Godfrey has good numbers, they don't reflect well.