Well, This Is Embarrassing.

[Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)]

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?season=2010&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&d-447263-n=1

I'm sure nobody expects anything better, because we all know our QBs are not playing well at all... But look at the bottom two in the passer rating field. We have not 1, but 2 Carolina guys down there. Dead. Last.

Both of our QBs have ratings at least 12 below Derek Anderson. That's insulting.

[Darth Biscuit]

It is what it is.

[Cat'sGrowl]

It is what it is.

and we'll evaluate it moving forward..

[Urrymonster]

Doesn't that suggest there is something beyond talent that is the root cause?

I maintain that neither Moore and Clausen can be evaluated effectively this season, unfortunately for them it may have cost Moore his career and Clausen his chance with the Panthers.

[realstandman]

Talk to the personnel Department.

[Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)]

Doesn't that suggest there is something beyond talent that is the root cause?

I maintain that neither Moore and Clausen can be evaluated effectively this season, unfortunately for them it may have cost Moore his career and Clausen his chance with the Panthers.

That's why I'm saying that people should jump off the "Draft Luck" bandwagon. If Luck was thrown into this same situation with a team run this bad, you can't expect him to make us Super Bowl contenders either.

[David Duke Is a Bad Person]

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?season=2010&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&d-447263-n=1

I'm sure nobody expects anything better, because we all know our QBs are not playing well at all... But look at the bottom two in the passer rating field. We have not 1, but 2 Carolina guys down there. Dead. Last.

Both of our QBs have ratings at least 12 below Derek Anderson. That's insulting.

Our QB's just below Derek Anderson, not 12.

Anyway 3 of the first five are Black.

1 and 2 are Black.

1 Michael Vick

2 David Garrard

3 Philip Rivers

4 Tom Brady

5 Vince Young

Time to put Amanti in as the starting QB.

[Darth Biscuit]

That's why I'm saying that people should jump off the "Draft Luck" bandwagon. If Luck was thrown into this same situation with a team run this bad, you can't expect him to make us Super Bowl contenders either.

Which is why I'm on the "sell everything and lure Peyton Manning away from the Colts" bandwagon.

[Seal (SmittyIsOurSavior)]

I meant 12 as in 12 points in the rating.

And yes, black QBs are obviously the best.

[TarPanther9180]

It's not just the QB. We failed to execute

[Kettle]

i'm no more embarrassed than I was before I opened this thread

[Happy Panther]

That's why I'm saying that people should jump off the "Draft Luck" bandwagon. If Luck was thrown into this same situation with a team run this bad, you can't expect him to make us Super Bowl contenders either.

You can evaluate a player on any team good or bad. Nobody expected Moore or Clausen (or bradford or mcCoy) to go to a Superbowl this year

[CatMan72]

and we'll evaluate it moving forward..

Which really means:

"I've got 7 weeks left at this stupid job and I don't give a sh*t."

[o803oVaDeR]

I never expected much from Moore. I dont expect much from Clausen. I think the rest of the NFL felt the same way. Moore was cut from Dallas before he came here. 32 teams passed on Clausen at least once. No one will pass on Luck. That is the difference! If you want a good QB you go get a good QB. Another man's trash is usually not going to be another man's treasure. Sure there are exceptions, but that is usually how it is.