Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

OFFSEASON TRADES will be necessary


MHS831

Recommended Posts

Assuming the need for players at other positions where we have quality backups, I can't help but thing a new coach might want to spread the wealth a bit, trading quality players where we are stacked with talent for players where we are starved for talent. If so, the following players could find themselves on the block:

1. DeAngelo Williams: Tag him and trade him. We have Sutton, Goodson, Stewart who are quality RBs as well. One of the traits of successful teams is the ability to know when to hold em, and fold em. Williams has not finished a season in the past 2 years. He was worked to death at Memphis. RBs don't usually last past age 30. He is 28. Has some value. Could he bring in a solid DT? If so, do it. If not, you have 4 solid RBs. Do not, however, sign him to a second contract. I imagine we would get a 2nd or 3rd rounder in the draft for him, but we probably need a veteran.

2. Dan Connor: Unless we go 3-4, he is a 2-down MLB playing behind a 3-down MLB who rarely gets hurt. He is still young and displayed some talent in the time he played before his hip injury. Would a team who needs veteran help up the middle offer a player for him, such as a CB or DT? If so, send him packing. Jamar Williams can play MLB in a reserve role. I am guessing he would bring a 3rd rounder if you wanted a pick instead.

3. Jimmy Clausen. If we draft Luck-- I would keep him for depth for a year, but a team with a desperate need might think Clausen is a product of the circumstances and could offer a deal you could not afford to pass on. I don't think he would bring anything right now, and to trade him (assuming we draft Luck) before the season starts is silly unless you bring in a veteran backup. But QBs are in demand in this league, and he will have a season of experience.

4. Steve Smith. One has to think that he does not see himself being here by the time the ship is turned around, and he wants to win. He has some value left, but needs to be somewhere where he can play the slot. I think a team who wants to win now would offer a quality player for him. I am not sure this would be wise for us right now, but if Smith starts pushing for a trade, the distraction would be profound. I for one think the WR corps will be much better when we get a better OL and QB, however, Lafell and Gettis rarely see the best CB or get over/under coverage.

5. Chris Gamble. He is getting old for a CB and doesn't like to tackle. He has quietly become one of the better CBs in the NFL. This gives him value. If we need a different type of CB to match the coverage required by the new defensive Coordinator, then we could trade Gamble for some magic beans. We are high on McClain and Munnerlyn and the draft seems deep at CB. Besides, the DEs are maturing and emphasis on stud DTs will create more pressure in the backfield.

Obviously, I am throwing these out as possible ways to fill need spots with veterans while minimizing the impact of the loss. Many will disagree with this, but to get value you have to give up value. These are five areas where I would not be surprised to see a big trade go down.

Re-sign the following players (prioritized list)

1t. Charles Johnson

1t. Ryan Kalil

3. James Anderson

4. Thomas Davis

5. Deangelo Williams

Needs (Prioritized list)

1. Starting (Franchise) QB

2. Starting DT

3. Starting DT

4. Starting CB

5. Starting RG

6. Starting TE (blocking and a pass receiving threat)

7. OT (depth)

8. C (depth)

9. WR (a true #1 will be needed very soon)

10. K (how long can Kasay continue? Will the new coach give 2 roster spots for kicking duties? I would not)

We can't re-sign our key free agents and fill our needs by signing UFAs and drafting players. We will get 1 starter out of the draft with no second rounders. We will have to make more trades than ever before if we want to fill these needs by next fall.

Too much free time for the moment, and I spend my free time lately playing Panther GM. Have at it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Trading Smith should never be an option. It's amazing how quickly fans will turn on a guy who has been our saving grace for the past decade. Not saying that's what you're doing but a lot of people are.

I could see tagging and trading Williams but I don't want to trade Conner unless a team offers something substantial. We're going to have the best LB in the game next season if we keep all of our guys.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Why dont we just trade away EVERY playmaker. What a great idea.

I think trades would be a big deal too, but this is a little overboard. That's almost like starting this team completely from scratch if you do all of that.

Here is a great idea: Hooked on phonics. The passage suggests that there are areas where a new coach might look to trade. It mentions to get value you need to trade value. These "playmakers" are on our roster now. Our 1-11 roster. It never suggests trading all 5. It states that there could be a move to trade value to get value.

As far as Smith goes, he may want out. He has value and he will be 32. The most successful teams do not hold onto players too long. If we trade Smith, he needs to be Replaced.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

meh, I could see us trading away either 1. One of running backs not named deangelo (I'm predicting we re-sign him) 2. Gamble 3. Smitty

I'd say there is a 50% chance for 1.

15% chance for 2.

1% chance for three (only if Smitty became incredibly demanding in forcing a trade, which I doubt he would do)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Forgive me for disagreeing with #5...but he is one of the better tackling defensive backs in the league. He's a textbook tackler at his position. His problem is when it comes to stopping the run he is sometimes out of position.

I have not seen that side, but I respect your opinion. We can agree that he is getting up there in years.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

meh, I could see us trading away either 1. One of running backs not named deangelo (I'm predicting we re-sign him) 2. Gamble 3. Smitty

I'd say there is a 50% chance for 1.

15% chance for 2.

1% chance for three (only if Smitty became incredibly demanding in forcing a trade, which I doubt he would do)

I think there is a higher probability for 1 of the trades, simply because we have to do something to meet needs. However, I agree that the liklihood of making more that 1 of these moves is small.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have not seen that side, but I respect your opinion. We can agree that he is getting up there in years.

He's definitely at the peak of his prime, but he can definitely extend his longevity like Ronde Barber...perhaps not on that same great level, but if he takes care of himself he'll be fine.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • It is all confusing and layered. SB is the cash you get very soon within weeks or in simple terms, its what you get to sign the paper work. Players and agents can agree on contract but what to "wait" to sign......teams don't like that cause you can "Carlos Boozer" yourself. In order to get that ink dry, while keeping the contract the same, portion it as a bonus to "sign" and get the funds with ________ .   * But Ive seen worded contracts that split the SB or a 20% to a later date. The beans counters can fill in the details about why certain dates are better and save the team money.. Theres tricks to the trade and accounting is full of them.    Ugh another big layer, is SB can be used to manipulate cap and players. Ill try to give a example that makes enough sense. Believe it or not having a owner like Tepper is a cheat code for this. He has cash in hand, where as Mark Davis had problem making pay roll and had to move the team to Vegas....... Tepper can give you 100,000,000 SB right now and the team can spread out the cap hit. Another owner doesn't have or want to give the player 100,000,000 in cash, but offered the same guaranteed contract in roster bonuses fully guaranteed over the next few years........ Which one do you want??? Everyone wants the money now, not before another inflation waves hits in 2 years. So it does 'pay" to have a owner like tepper that's able to have real cash on hand, while it also works GREAT for cap help. Heres a good video, if you can stand coked up pat and mask look-a-like AJ    
    • I don't know. CMC is like others and may have lip serviced that line of " I had no plan or wanted to leave Carolina" I think he even said he bought a house too and wanted this to be home.   Here's what I heard- In a way Panthers org gave him a test and he didn't "fight" back. They approached CMC and told him they wanted to put him on IR since the "season" was over or out of playoff reach. CMC didn't fight it one lick and agreed. They secretly wanted him to kept playing or want to, but there was no kickback. I honestly don't know if its real or not, 5th hand information type deal doing on. Yes he had bruises and pains, but was able to play...... but went along with Panthers staff. Odd to be playing games with star players, but whatever....   Plus the staff doctors found out about his tendinitis and there was nothing to fix it. Even with him missing time, it was the best move to trade him before he got inflamed constantly.    Lastly, its mostly time a combo of stuff, Fitterererere did not sign him to be the highest paid RB. That was classic Marty "give me a" herniay doing. GMs have different values on roster spots and rumor was Fitterererer was one that didn't want to pay RBs. For all his faults, he's right about that......
×
×
  • Create New...